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Bill H 02.

07-06-2007 10:08:16




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The starter post stud where the batter cable connects is loose and is causing the starter to short out. I can tighten it some but it still has some movement. I need to know how the stud connects inside the starter housing. The outside housing has an insulating washer and nut. Does any one know how this stud is installed and what parts are required to fix it. I have disassembled one of these starters and cleaned the brushes and blowed it out in the past. I didn't look at the stud connection at that time. I can say that getting it back together takes some doings particularly holding the brushes back to slide the starter in place. Help appreciated

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Bill H. 02

07-06-2007 14:18:11




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to Bill H 02., 07-06-2007 10:08:16  
CENTAUR, Thanks for the reassembly information. I will certainly have to use it because I will have to disassemble the starter to get to the stud bolt that the battery cable connects to. Could you address this (Does any one know how this stud is installed and what parts are required to fix it) Thanks



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Jerry/MT

07-06-2007 16:11:00




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to Bill H. 02, 07-06-2007 14:18:11  
The stud is usually just a bolt that either has a hex head or a screw slot. You have to hold it from the inside to tighten it. The parts book doesn't show this detail except for the Lucas starter and it shows a bolt.
There should be two nuts on the stud;one to hold the stud tight and the other to hold the cable from the starter switch on the stud.
Hope this helps.



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CENTAUR

07-06-2007 16:44:32




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to Jerry/MT, 07-06-2007 16:11:00  
I think a TO-20 would not have (ENGLISH) LUCAS STARTER.If I am wrong I am sorry. CENTAUR



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Jerry/MT

07-06-2007 22:38:57




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to CENTAUR, 07-06-2007 16:44:32  
Centaur, I think the TE-20 & TEA-20 had the Lucas electrics andI know the TO-20 & -30 had Delco electrics.



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CENTAUR

07-06-2007 16:07:39




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to Bill H. 02, 07-06-2007 14:18:11  
If the Insulator looks good to eye on the inside of the starter frame I would leave it there and just keep it insulated by making one so it cannot hit the frame.Even wood or a shorter piece of a non conducting plastic tubing is good around the stud and a flat plastic washer before you put on the flat steel and lock washer and nut to hold everything in a insulated position.You could also use something out of a tube to hold it in a concentric position.All you have to do is keep that stud from touching the frame.Than you for responding.CENTAUR

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CENTAUR

07-06-2007 16:33:47




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to CENTAUR, 07-06-2007 16:07:39  
I just reread and I failed again.I think I could install a insulating washer on the inside after removing what may be left and if Icould not easily remove the stud.I might split an insulating washer and force it in over the stud.You might find a washer with a large enough diameter so it could be flatened so the end plate might help hold it in position.As you can see It is difficult for me to say what to do as I do not know what you have to work with.Thanks Again.CENTAUR

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CENTAUR

07-06-2007 13:21:35




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 Re: to 20 1950 Starter in reply to Bill H 02., 07-06-2007 10:08:16  
On most starters the brushes can be held by putting the brush spring against the side of the brush which holds it in the retracted position until you get it all put together.Then simply push the brushes down and position them correctly.On many units there may be a hole that allows a toothpick like tool to hold out of the way till you are ready for the brushes to make contact.DELCO ALTERNATORS are a good example.CENTAUR

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