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Ferguson vs Ford N

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oldfarmer

07-16-2007 13:38:23




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This topic was visited many years ago. Now many Ford N owners/new owners expect more out of these Ford tractors than they get. There are many complants about low power with a brush hog. We owned a TO-20 and it had great low end power, a Ford N needed full trottle in the field and then rpms would drop fast under heavy load, that was not an issue with the Ferguson, something about real world tractor power, the Ford had a car engine. Both tractors had similar size/design, but the Ferguson engine made it a much better tractor. And I never hear of anyone complaining about lack of power with a Ferguson.

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Elvin C Frank

07-21-2007 19:40:53




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to oldfarmer, 07-16-2007 13:38:23  
Now don't get me wrong. I love all old tractors and I have never operated an old fergie. However, I have operated several N's and every one was a sound machine. Also, where I'm from I can drive around and see the old N tractors everywhere, whereas maybe one fergie, if it's still there. I doubt seriously if there were as many fergie's sold and if there was I sure don't see them around. Not trying to stir a nest just wanted to add my 2 cents

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oldfarmer

07-18-2007 11:45:21




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to oldfarmer, 07-16-2007 13:38:23  
Great discussion, our Fergie ran at slightly lower RPM than a Ford 'N' and pulled better, don't really know if it was considered a long stoke engine, I don't really know if it was Continental or Standard, but it pulled hard. Someone once told me the Ford 'N' used a model A engine, quite old and they passed that off for years to farmers. That was why I said they used a car engine. Flathead engines just never had the power of an overhead engine of the same size. Regardless of what the rated power was.

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Gerald J.

07-18-2007 20:30:45




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to oldfarmer, 07-18-2007 11:45:21  
9N Ford engine was closer to half a flat head V-8 with the distributor direct coupled to the front of the cam shaft. And that may be the major difference between the A engine and the N engine.

Within its power capability, the A engine wasn't a bad engine.

Gerald J.



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cdmn

07-17-2007 11:40:05




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to oldfarmer, 07-16-2007 13:38:23  
You must have had the Continental engine in your Ferguson. The English models also used essentially a car engine. The only American car engines with long strokes were the Champion six, and the Hudson Wasp six. Don't think anyone used them.



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gshadel

07-16-2007 14:41:31




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to oldfarmer, 07-16-2007 13:38:23  
Ahhhh men! In hind sight, it's no suprise that Ford switched to an overhead valve engine when the Jubilee/NAA was introduced.

George



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steve19438

07-16-2007 15:31:46




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to gshadel, 07-16-2007 14:41:31  
isn't that about the same time that ford dumped the flat-head V-8?



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GrampaJack

07-17-2007 06:43:46




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to steve19438, 07-16-2007 15:31:46  
While we are on the subject, I wonder what the oldest known Harry Ferguson tractor is? Mine is a TO20 with serial number 7575. This is the lowest serial number I have seen just looking at posts in this forum. There has to be some with really low numbers out there. Jack



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Irv (Ia)

07-17-2007 13:24:33




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to GrampaJack, 07-17-2007 06:43:46  
Scott Morrow from Wisconsin has #8. It's in the photo archives under 1948 Ferguson to-20 #8.



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Duner Wi

07-17-2007 09:10:49




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to GrampaJack, 07-17-2007 06:43:46  
Awhile back someone posted a question who said they had a TO10. I think it was determined it was serial # 10. Should be in the archives .
I have engine serial # 101479 but don't know the chassis serial as the plate is missing. do you know your engine serial??
thanks.



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GrampaJack

07-18-2007 04:50:16




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to Duner Wi, 07-17-2007 09:10:49  
I looked last night and tractor ser. no. is TO7575 but the tag that was on the top left side of the block is missing. I assume this is where the block number was. Owning number 8 would be cool. Jack



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Duner Wi

07-18-2007 17:41:31




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 Re: Ferguson vs Ford N in reply to GrampaJack, 07-18-2007 04:50:16  
Thank you for looking. Yest the engine serial plate is sort of by the dist.



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