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bgiles

08-30-2007 18:38:28




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I have just aquired a tea 20 that has a siezed motor. Apparently it is just from sitting. The guy said he hadn"t used it in about 3 years. It was recomended that I put some diesel in the cylinders for a while to loosen it up. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions? Thanks.




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John (UK)

08-31-2007 08:55:51




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to bgiles, 08-30-2007 18:38:28  
Put some oil or diesel in the cylinders and allow to soak for a day or so and then remove the starter and use a small bar to lever the engine GENTLY on the teeth on the Flywheel ring gear. The opposite way to which it normally rotates as it could be the engine governor has lost a weight and it has become jammed in the timing chain. If it will turn the wrong way then try it the right way to see if it locks up, if it does and it is solid then you can assume that it is a weight and you will need to strip down the Timing Cover and check it out.....John

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bgiles

09-25-2007 21:09:26




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to John (UK), 08-31-2007 08:55:51  
I gave it a try John and no luck. You reffered to a govenor weight. Where exactly would that be located? By the way I really had a hard time getting the proper leverage on the flywheel. It seemed like such an awkward angle. I tried gently rocking it in 4th gear and also no luck. What do you think I should do now? thenks Bob



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John (UK)

09-26-2007 10:37:22




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to bgiles, 09-25-2007 21:09:26  
BOB, It is awkward angle as you say but using a screwdriver or pinch bar on the flywheel teeth it should work. The governor is in the timing cover right on the front of the engine. From how you describe it, saying you can't get the engine to turn it would appear that the engine is seized and not locked by a governor weight as that would allow you to turn the engine easily but in the wrong direction. Try turning it again on the flywheel and if it doesn't turn then the engine will need more drastic repairs. Don't try rocking it, you only can damage the transmission. If it won't turn the flywheel then it won't turn at all. What it looks like you will have to do is remove the Cylinder Head and then the oil Pan and detach the Con-rods from the crankshaft. If you need more info about all this email me at:- fergusontractors(at)tiscali.co.uk
just tell me what you need and I will send it...John

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johnand cindy

08-31-2007 08:38:09




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to bgiles, 08-30-2007 18:38:28  
You can try the other stuff. I like Aerokroil from Kano labs. I have used them all and this stuff seems to work the best, you can get it in the mail or on line never seen it in stores. We use it alot for freeing up everything with good sucess. Just my 2 cents, have a good weekend. John



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johnand cindy

08-31-2007 08:43:39




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to johnand cindy, 08-31-2007 08:38:09  
Also do exactly what Bob (Aus) said unless you know what is stuck for sure. Regards John



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Bob (Aust)

08-31-2007 01:02:43




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to bgiles, 08-30-2007 18:38:28  
Whoa! Don't try to turn it over with the starter motor or towing the tractor. You're likely to break something very expensive!

You don't yet know where the engine is seized.

Check the engine oil for colour. If brown (water present) the problem may be rust in the bottom end. Or it may be a seized piston or a jammed governor weight in the timing case. Don't start forcing anything.

I'd suggest remove the plugs, fill the cylinders with diesel fuel, kerosene or Jet A1 with around 10% light machine oil. Let it sit for a few days - longer if possible. If the fluid in the cylinders drains down, fill with more.

Then, with the spark plugs out gently try to rock the engine over with the hand starting crank. If it turns over keep cranking by hand until the engine appears to turn freely.

If it turns over freely, drain all oil, fit new filter and fill with new oil, then try to start on the starter motor.

If it is jammed solid, don't force it!

If it doesn't turn over by hand, check your bank account to see if you can afford a full engine overhaul. A Standard engine full overhaul is cheaper than you may imagine - full engine kits, including sleeves, pistons, bearings and gaskets should be around $400. If you have the tools, a good manual and a little mechanical knowledge, the engine is simple to rebuild.

There really isn't much to go wrong with the Standard engine. It is simple and one of the most robust engines the British ever built, having also been fitted to Vanguard cars, Triumph sports cars - and over 10 years installed in half a million Little Grey Fergies!

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Jim in OH

08-30-2007 19:35:53




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 Re: tea20 seized motor in reply to bgiles, 08-30-2007 18:38:28  
Diesel is good... Automatic transmission fluid has a reputation for helping.. remove the plugs, pour it in... try in a few days.... you might try towing it if the starter can't break it loose... (in your highest gear, 4th?)



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