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Speaking of stabilizer bars...

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greenbank

11-13-2007 17:59:26




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I bought a new set of lift arms for my TO-35, and I think I bought the type used for the MF35, being 33" between centers as opposed to 31.5" between hole centers. I assume this isn't going to cause me any trouble? I assume longer bars means greater leverage and more stress, but on the TO-35 this shouldn't really be an issue...?

I only ask as my old stabilizer arms no longer fit, I'll have to buy a set that's the right length.

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greenbank

11-15-2007 01:32:42




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
I'm curious, I'm sure it's printed somewhere, but what is the lifting capacity of a TO-35 with "normal" lower links? Are we talking the difference between 1000 and 950 pounds now, or 400 and 380 lbs, or?

Also, I don't know much about the MF 35, I thought it was essentially a TO-35 with updated sheet metal. I assume with the longer lift links, the hydraulics must have been improved?



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Jeff-oh

11-15-2007 07:01:56




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-15-2007 01:32:42  
The lift can pick up more than the tractor can handle. Thus, you will not be limiting your self.

Rule of thumb is you can pick up in the 1000 lb range, much more than that and the front wheels will start comming off the ground.

You have not created a problem, infact you have saved yourself some headaches associated with tire interferance.

Also the answer is dependent on the total geometry of the system. The 5% number comes from the fact the bar is 5% longer, and thus the moment arm of lifting the weight is 5% higher. etc. The drang link position is also important. And it was ignored.

Bottom line the longer arms are probally a good thing.

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Dave Sherburne NY

11-14-2007 14:34:50




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
Longer lift arms will probably give you less lift
capacity. Check the distance from the hole that fastens to the trumpet to the hole that the leveling
box assembly is fastened to. If it is the same on the old and the new, you could maybe turn it around
to get the lesser distance from the implement to the
leveling box hole on the end toward the implement
which would give the most lifting power.

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John (UK)

11-14-2007 13:23:57




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 Re: Speaking of stabiliser bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
You may have to buy adjustable Stabiliser bars for your tractor if you cant find any flat ones the correct length. If your lower links that you have just bought are the type with the three holes in the middle, to get back any loss of lifting weight, attach the lift rods to the rear most hole of the centre three holes but still attach the check chains to the original centre hole. Your top link should be ok if it is the standard MF type as it will extend enough, if it is some aftermarket type then you may have a problem with it...John

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greenbank

11-14-2007 12:12:32




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
Thanks. I typically use the tractor with a rotary mower and have an adjustable top link for that. I'm hoping to try my hand at ploughing one day, and the only other implement I can see myself using a lot would be a rotavator.

Still feels fairly silly to buy the "wrong" arms and then not even measure them before painting and mounting. Oh, well.



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Jeff-oh

11-14-2007 08:09:36




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
What you say is true...

You will need a new longer set off stabilizer arms. Because of the longer arms, your lift capability will be 95% of what it was.

Jeff



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phil(va)

11-14-2007 06:09:50




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
Top link might be slightly affected. Some top links might not reach as well for some implements. That aside, the longer bars will be an advantage for some plows with front coulter. Sometimes the front coulter can rub on something, typically the rotating PTO, which is not good, obviously. It's easy to see why farmers often removed the front coulter.



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greenbank

11-13-2007 19:12:10




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
You mean the ones that I painted and mounted on the tractor after an eyeball comparison to the old ones?third party image



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ric1

11-13-2007 18:49:02




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to greenbank, 11-13-2007 17:59:26  
wouldnt it make more sense to just exchange the lift arms for the correct ones.just my thought.



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Jeff-oh

11-14-2007 08:12:12




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 Re: Speaking of stabilizer bars... in reply to ric1, 11-13-2007 18:49:02  
No not really... Lift arms are ~$50.00 each while stabilizer arms ar $10.00.

The longer ars will have a lower potential for wheel interference with implements... Blades, plows, etc.



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