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Hal Hadaller

12-28-2007 19:40:03




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I have a 1952 TO-30 that has hub caps installed with Zerk fittings of some sort. They look larger than normal and are welded to the hub cap. The welds look as to be factory. What is the purpose for the zerks in the front hubs? Normally with bearings that are packed with grease, we leave it be for X time and then repack again. Also, to get grease thru a zerk to the inside bearing, the whole hub has to be filled with grease and some amount of pressure used to get grease to go thru the inside bearing and possibly pushing the rubber flat seal washer outward. I think it best to just cut off the damaged fittings and seal the holes shut.

Any advise or experience on this? I am trying to get things as much original as possible but to do this on the hubs would require grinding off the zerks and re-drilling and threading for something that seems uneccessary or damaging.

Hal

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Dave Tointon Australia

01-02-2008 02:43:30




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
G'Day Bob, Have to agree with you. Engines with heavy metal parts flailing up and down and round and round have no place in an aeroplane. Good in Fergies Nogat in Balus Regards Dave



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Bob (Aust)

12-31-2007 20:24:09




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
Hal

The term "Zerk" appears to be a US term. I've never heard of that term in Australia - we use the term "grease nipple".

I can only find the term in the US Merriam-Webster dictionary:

Main Entry:
zerk
Pronunciation:
\ˈzərk\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Oscar U. Zerk died 1968 American (Austrian-born) inventor

Date:
1926

: a grease fitting

"Hub caps" also are those old shiny chrome caps that go over the wheels, which any kid will tell gives a car an additional 20 MPH! :D

If you are into aircraft, Cessna fixed U/C singles can have "hub caps", retractable U/Cs don't have "hub caps". Also, if into aircraft, you will appreciate I am not a Continental engine fan! Lycomings - or preferably Pratt & Whitney PT6 do it for me in light aircraft.

Another thing that threw me - my TEA20 does not have "zerks"/grease nipples in the front hubs - it has oil filling plugs on the inside of the front hubs.

Hope that resolves the confusion!
Bob in Oz

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Gerald J.

12-29-2007 10:52:18




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
My JD 4020 came from the factory with zerk in the front wheel hub caps.

Replacement hubs for tractors and implements can be bought with or without zerks, not necessarily in the caps.

In my 4020 owner's manual, it recommends the hubs be removed and thoroughly cleaned at the specified intervals, but inbetween should the wheels be submerged above the hub caps that they be conveniently and rapidly purged of water by filling through the zerks.

Gerald K.

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William Wood

12-29-2007 10:26:58




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
My '53 TO-30 also has the grease fittings installed in the bearing cap. Mine are not welded in. They are threaded and can be replaced just like conventional ones. The system works fine. Just use a grease gun once a year, injecting it until grease oozes out around the inner seal. No big deal. It is the way practically all new trailer ("E-Z lube"-type) axles are configured, only they have a rubber plug to protect the grease fitting.

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Hal Hadaller

01-02-2008 06:35:15




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to William Wood, 12-29-2007 10:26:58  
If I am correct, trailers have a spring loaded device behind the grease cap that keeps pressure on the grease and one is basically filling the cap part thru the zerk and not forcing grease out thru the inner seal. I am bothered about flooding the housing with grease that forces the grease thru the seal. Not sure if that will cause the seal to go bad.

Ferguson's don't really have a lip type seal but just a flat rubber washer sort of device so forcing grease thru it won't damage the so called seal. This is the first "thing" I have worked on that uses such a device for a seal.

Hal

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Bob (Aust)

12-29-2007 04:08:53




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
My apologies - it's that English language barrier again!! third party image

I now understand you have outer bearing caps with grease nipples installed??

Not what we call "hub caps".



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Hal Hadaller

12-29-2007 07:00:20




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Bob (Aust), 12-29-2007 04:08:53  
All my searches including my parts breakdown manual calls these "Cap,Hub". And that is what they do. Wheel covers cover the wheel including the hub. I think my english is correct.

Anyway my question was not answered as to the use of a zerk fitting in the hub cap. The parts manual does not show a zerk in the cap.



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Bendee

12-31-2007 18:03:41




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-29-2007 07:00:20  
you call it Tom ato,we call it To mato.
Didn't read any critism of your English, Hal, just a matter of identification.Your wheel cover and our hub caps are the same dog but with a different collar.However, my TEA20 manual describes the hub cap as the covering over the cotter pin and castellated nut at the end of the stub axle.Having a grease nipple [zerk,I think] affixed would be inclined to make one give it a shot each time the tractor is greased,otherwise it tends to be overlooked.Nipples are screwed and sometime pressed but if the thread is mutilated some people are inclined to use the weld fix,unfortunately.
Happy 2008 to all.

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Hal Hadaller

12-31-2007 18:20:31




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Bendee, 12-31-2007 18:03:41  
Have you seen any of those KING size Zerks? American grease guns will not fit these.

When I originally mentioned Hub caps and Zerks, I did not expect wheel covers and a story on those. I have no idea why someone would want wheel covers on a tractor although there are tractors that the wheel design inludes a cover as part of the wheel.

Maybe modern yokes don't know about greasing bearings but seeing a Zerk is also meaningless as almost no cars use these any more. Bearing and packing is still a current art. We are part of the lost generations when it comes to zerks. I have an airplane and I much prefer to pack bearings as I can see what is inside and that ALL IS WELL. Shoving grease thru a zerk offers not a clue as to the insides of the wheel other than it is hollow when grease comes out the back side.

Hal

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Paul Kingsbury

12-29-2007 00:07:31




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
Hi Hal

I convert many axles to this style of grease zerks. I really perfer this system; they have worked on a horse trailer, used it for 30 years, vacation trailers, tractors and more. Never a bearing failure in over 30 years....
Good luck

Paul in Oregon



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Hal Hadaller

12-30-2007 07:30:00




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Paul Kingsbury, 12-29-2007 00:07:31  
What do you meand by "this style of grease zerks"?

Mine had much larger than normal type and both were damaged bad. I ground them off flush with the cap and looks like they may have been threaded in. Still debating whether to weld them shut or extract them and replace with American style standard zerk.

Hal



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Bob (Aust)

12-28-2007 22:52:33




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 Re: Hub cap Zerks in reply to Hal Hadaller, 12-28-2007 19:40:03  
Is this what you have?

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("Ferguson Implements and Accessories" by John Farnworth P 84)

Front Wheel Hub Caps

The narrow tractors (not vineyards) are fitted with front wheel hub caps, similar to those on motor cars of the day. These cover the standard small hub cap and wheel nuts, and prevent them from snagging on vegetation. The hubs are a press fit onto lugs which are pre welded on to the front wheels of this tractor."

Bob in Oz

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