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Followup on source for coal

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John (TR)

02-23-2008 16:28:00

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Found a couple of sources for coal. Here's a shot of the Forge I rebuilt a couple of years back. Tore it apart and sandblasted it. Never could get the blower to work right as the babbitt bearings were shot. Took it to the machine shop and bored them and installed bronze.

A friend made the belt and we laced it up today and adjusted a few things and had our first fire. This is not my hobby, it's my dad's. Fired it with oak pieces but can see we need coal. We need to work out a few more things but at least we've had a fire!

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Bob (Aust)

02-27-2008 01:04:57

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Re: Followup on source for coal in reply to John (TR), 02-23-2008 16:28:00

Interesting you mention that cdmn. I know nothing about forges but there are a few working around here, mostly part of historic attractions. I live in a coal mining region but the forges don't use coal, they use "coke" - which is probably a British and Australian term!!

It is neither a soft drink, nor an illicit drug. From Wikipedia:

"Coke is a solid carbonaceous material derived from destructive distillation of low-ash, low-sulfur bituminous coal.

The volatile constituents of the coal�including water, coal-gas, and coal-tar�are driven off by baking in an airless oven at temperatures as high as 2,000 degrees Celsius. This fuses together the fixed carbon and residual ash. Most coke in modern facilities is produced in "by-product" coke ovens and the resultant coke is used as the main fuel in iron-making blast furnaces. Today, the hydrocarbons are considered to be by-products of modern coke-making facilities (though they are usually captured and used to produce valuable products). Non by-product coke ovens burn hydrocarbon off-gases on site to provide the heat needed to drive the carbonization process."

There is an interesting article on forge fuel HERE.

Bob in Oz

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Don Hooks*

02-27-2008 09:02:32

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Re: Followup on source for coal in reply to Bob (Aust), 02-27-2008 01:04:57

Coke works especially well with a forced draft system due to the porosity and tendency not to pack. Coke also tends to "surface" burn which means you don't have a lot of flame above the bed. The downside is it doesn't light easily since there are almost no volatiles left in it. Foundries often use gas flames to light off coke in cupolas but I have seen coal used also. In a forge the size of one in the picture, I would guess that coke would be hard to get going but you would have a hot steady fire when you did.

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cdmn

02-26-2008 21:38:03

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Re: Followup on source for coal in reply to John (TR), 02-23-2008 16:28:00

I think you should be looking for charcoal, lumped natural hardwood. Not briquettes. Several sources on the net.

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Stan/TX

02-23-2008 20:33:48

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Re: Followup on source for coal in reply to John (TR), 02-23-2008 16:28:00

I have a good friend that blacksmith's for a living. Maybe he can help you and/or your dad get the forge going again. Contact information can be found at the following - good luck.

Stan

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Howard H.

02-23-2008 16:47:27

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Re: Followup on source for coal in reply to John (TR), 02-23-2008 16:28:00

Looks pretty nice!

Just for what it's worth - my forge has "clay before firing" or something to that effect cast into the iron.

An old timer at the sale I bought it at said it was important to line the forge before using it. I assumed he meant line it with clay...

I'm sure others will know more about it than me...

Howard

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John (TR)

02-24-2008 04:58:37

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Re: Followup on source for coal in reply to Howard H., 02-23-2008 16:47:27

The guys at Blacksmith class said to line it with blue clay which there is some around here but is all frozen right now. We filled it with cat litter for the test run and modified a green bean can and sewer grate and came up with this. The grate that covers the blower was missing and I'm not sure we have it quite right yet

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