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Installing loader on 600 series

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Ron (GA)

03-07-2000 12:13:39




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Anyone out there have a 600 series (w/0 pwr stg)with a loader on it care to share their input? I have a 58 or 59 600 and would like to install a loader on it to use in preparing my 7.5 ac for eventual homestead. I've heard that w/o ps, it's tough to turn and the added weight affects the handling and will wear out the front end components. Also, can it be removed and stored to be installed again w/o much difficulty or is it a permanent install? Is this something I'd regret? Also, what's the best type of loader to install? New Tractor Owner

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Dave

03-15-2000 21:27:26




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 Re: Installing loader on 600 series in reply to Ron (GA), 03-07-2000 12:13:39  

Ron, I agree with Mark's assessment. Here's my deal. This last year I bought and installed a Ford 19-117 (68 standard
loader) on my 660. I have the tires filled and a 3pt platform with a barrel of gravel on it on the rear.The bucket is an older
style so it only holds about 2-3 contractors wheelbarrows full of dirt. It's not a lot of capacity but it moves the dirt and
I'm doing it at a highly enjoyable rate.(ain't that the issue). It steers like an old truck but I don't feel I'm overdoing it on
the steering or front end assembly. The rear tires do loose traction occassionally but I never ever have tipping problems
or anything like that. I added a front hydraulic pump and a bucket cylinder because it was a trip setup. It all can be
removed but I wouldn't want to make it a habit. In the winter I take off the bucket and adapted a snow plow on the
front forks that works great. There was alot of planning and fabrication but that was half the plan and enjoyment. I just
started moving more dirt last week till the snow hit again. (Rochester NY)

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Truck

03-09-2000 19:21:58




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 Re: Installing loader on 600 series in reply to Ron (GA), 03-07-2000 12:13:39  
I have a 600 with a loader on it. The front wheels have a crazy decambered tilt to them from all the abuse they have gotten over the years from far too much weight in the huge bucket. When the power steering works, it is actually aimable, but when the p/s is dead it is pretty hard to get within a foot of where you are aiming....My understanding is that the p/s setup is going over a thousand dollars for the parts. My 800 came with a set of weighted 13 inch tires , so they moved immediately to the 600. Even with all that weight it is too light in the rear. It had a barrell full of weight when I went to pick it up, but I had to leave it as it wouldn't fit my trailer. If I was to do it over again I would think seriously about getting something larger. The hydraulics will pick up substantially more than I have counterweight for. Several times I have bounced the rear tires off the ground, and if the ground is the least bit slippery or soft the rear wheels will spin. It works GREAT for snow, however. I am not too certain the 800 loader wouldn't be a direct install on the 600.. Possibly the 5 speed transmission adds a little length, but it can't be too much.

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Mark Trzyzewski

03-09-2000 05:57:35




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 Re: Installing loader on 600 series in reply to Ron (GA), 03-07-2000 12:13:39  
Ron,
I have a massey fergusen model 99 loader on a 53 NAA without power steering. It is a slight pain to steer much like a old pick up truck with out power steering, no problem if you are moving, slight pain if you are stopped. If you pay attention to the used equipment columns you should be able to find a used full control loader (meaning the bucket has a cylinder)in the $500 to $1000 range. I would also watch for a full set of rear wheel weights and plan on loading your rear tires for weight. The horsepower size and weight of your tractor is going to be light for major digging such as a basement but is okay for landscaping, grading, snow removal ect. In terms of front end Wear, they probably mean steering slop, my tractor is tighter than most field tractors that I have seen so I don't really see a problem. If you look for a used loader one from a NAA will fit, a 8n, 9N 2N or 800 has slightly different spacing and may require a small amount of modification due to slightly different frame length. Good Luck.

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