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baron

10-13-2000 21:34:09




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I'm about to replace the swing arm chain (piston activated) on Ford 4500 backhoe. Any special things to do or watch out for? It seems fairly straight forward. thanks




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ray

08-02-2002 03:19:44




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 Re: 4500 backhoe swing arm chain in reply to baron, 10-13-2000 21:34:09  
There are two chains. The left and right are not the same. They are held in place by a pin in the center of the swing post. If you can't hold the swing cylinders in an extended position for reattachment you will have to remove the small hose that connects between the back of each cylinder and the supply lines on the valve control body. It will be easier to loosen the supply lines enough to get them to bleed so you can pull the cylinder arms out enough to reattach them to the chain. Each chain costs about $300.00.
If there is any way to repair a link it will save you some money. Good luck!

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Ecnerwal

08-15-2002 16:42:51




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 Re: Re: 4500 backhoe swing arm chain in reply to ray, 08-02-2002 03:19:44  
Oh yeah, I've got tips.

You can get slack on the cylinders (without bleeding fluid) by a complex dance I described in a post last year after I figured it out, but now that I've shoveled the accumulation of dirt out of the underhoe I'd have to say that loosening (not removing unless you've really got things _clean_) the hose going from the swing cylinder into the combination valve is the easier way to get slack on the cylinder, if the underhoe is not full of filth. You may need to remove the tractor seat to get in there more easily. Remember that the hoses cross (left hose goes to right cylinder) You'll still need something substantial to pull with/on (or you could put an air fitting on the breather port and pump up the rear to move it forward, I guess).

Shovel out all the dirt you can get. It might be worth removing the cylinders (with the chain off just shove them backwards) to clean out under there better.

If your swing cylinders have breathers on them, upgrade to the "new style" connecting the breather ports with a hose - cheap at the hardware store, probably either not available or 10X the price from New Holland. Look in your parts book if you have one to get the idea. If you already have a hose, replace it if it looks iffy.

If the chain is not too far gone new pins can be made from 1/2" grade 8 bolts (long enough to have smooth shank for the required distance) - the heads need to be ground down somewhat, and then you set the head on an anvil or anvil subtitute and peen away with a ball-peen hammer until you've got it pinned. Or have your local blacksmith do it. If the chain is too far gone you might be better off buying chain from a heavy-duty industrial supply and transferring the end connections or having new end connections fabricated-the prices I've seen quoted on these half-chains will buy over 10 feet of similar-size chain on the open market...

Replace all the cotter pins. If the big pin in the middle has enough slack on the bottom put on a washer to give the bottom cotter pin a fighting chance (this may only be an issue if your swing post is as abused as mine has been).

If you are reinstalling old chains, it can't hurt to get them as clean as possible first. For lubrication, I'm undecided on whether to use the Ford suggestion to soak them in hydraulic oil or the bicyclist suggestion to cook them in paraffin wax (as a lubricant that will attract & hold less dirt than grease or oil will).

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