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1957 Ford 850 Running Problem (Any ideas ??)

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Craig

05-31-2002 21:00:16




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HI, I recently sent a message on this sight regaurding my 850 Ford Tractor not wanting to run for very long without stalling. I,T still has this problem. The motor has been completly rebiult, it also has new plugs, wires, coil, dist. cap, rotor, points, plugs, condenser,regulator,solinoid,gas line,filter,rebuilt carberator witch I have had off and recleaned 4 times , blown out crack checked,another new needle and seat installed in it (2nd one)float checked again,etc.etc.I cant seem to keep it running for very long. It runs longer at higher R.P.M.. I have also taken out the distributor and cleaned and checked it out. There seams to be some side play in the distributor shaft. How much is to much? And can this cause it to just quit running like that?I also took off the gas tank and flushed it out .ANY HELP would be appreciated Thanks, Craig...

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John

06-01-2002 15:39:32




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 Re: 1957 Ford 850 Running Problem (Any ideas ??) in reply to Craig, 05-31-2002 21:00:16  
Check the wire that goes from the distributor to the coil.[the little wire].My 820 would stop dead.I loosened the nut that holds the wire onto the distributor,wiggled it while my dad cranked it,the tractor started right up.Seems that the piece inside the distributor was touching some metal,shorting it out.Good luck,John.



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MarkB

06-01-2002 03:32:45




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 Re: 1957 Ford 850 Running Problem (Any ideas ??) in reply to Craig, 05-31-2002 21:00:16  
Start with the basics: Is the problem fuel, spark or compression?

Get a can of starting fluid. When it conks out, give it a snort of fluid in the air cleaner inlet. If it fires right up, then you have a fuel problem. Otherwise, the problem is spark or compression related.

Another way to see if you have a fuel problem is to pull a spark plug after cranking. If the plug is wet, you're getting fuel.

If you have a fuel problem, I'd check for a leaky float. Shake the float; if you hear something sloshing around you've found your problem.

When troubleshooting these tractors, realize that they will run pretty smooth on only 2 or 3 cylinders. So when it's running, it's entirely possible that it's only hitting on one cylinder. When that last cylinder quits, the motor quits. Don't assume that you have a single problem, you could have four different problems, one per cylinder! Since you just did a rebuild, check that you've got the spark plug wires in the right order; I ran mine with the firing order backwards for several months once.

I wouldn't worry too much about the distributor shaft play. As long as the points are actually opening and closing, it should be OK. Check for spark at the plugs when you crank.

Another thing to check is the valve lash. If the valves were set too tight after the rebuild, they won't close once the motor warms up.

Good luck.

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tom

06-02-2002 04:56:52




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 Re: Re: 1957 Ford 850 Running Problem (Any ideas ??) in reply to MarkB, 06-01-2002 03:32:45  
Also, when checking the float...recheck the tab on it near the hinge...if that tab is outof whack it may catch a bit as the float does it's thing with the needle. So, float may not be operating smoothly.

Also, the wire that goes into the side of the distributor...check that it is well insluated and not touching and tight.

I suspect, from what it sounds like it is fuel related. Sudden shutdowns and no starts are electrical in nature. Bogging dwown, rough idling, chugging to a stall fuel or compression or both.

Clamp down on the manifold studs. COmpression leak or vacuum leak.

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Jerry

06-02-2002 16:10:48




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 Re: Re: Re: 1957 Ford 850 Running Problem (Any ideas ??) in reply to tom, 06-02-2002 04:56:52  
Did you have the battery out. It sounds like it might be in with the the connections reversed. You might be able to tell if the amp gage discharges instead of charge while the motor is running.



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gatractorman

06-01-2002 03:24:08




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 Re: 1957 Ford 850 Running Problem (Any ideas ??) in reply to Craig, 05-31-2002 21:00:16  
key switch or ballast resistor???



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