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bill

07-09-2002 22:36:33




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I have Ford 941 that has three different places on the tractor to hook up the top link for the three point hitch. I understand the top one is used for the plow but what are the other two used for and when?




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Tom-Pa

07-11-2002 17:35:30




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 Re: top link hook up in reply to bill, 07-09-2002 22:36:33  
Do not use the top hole if you can avoid it. Especially with heavy equipment...that is the best way to mess up the hydraulic sensing system. All plows should be on the bottom hole. I also use it for my brush hog and field cultivator. the second one can be used for regular cultivators, and other immplements. The top hole was intended for use of implements like the weeder. numerous fingered item and works fairly well..The best thing you can do to save your self future repairs and agrivation, is to put a bolt,nut and cotter key in the top hole and forget it is there...Using the top hole with heavy equipment like a plow or disc can rip the guts out if you are not carefull.
just my 2 pense worth of saving money..
Tom-Pa

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Mike in Ohio

07-11-2002 20:25:53




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 Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to Tom-Pa, 07-11-2002 17:35:30  
I agree with Tom-Pa. I once asked a longtime Ford dealer head mechanic about the top link. He said that the bottom hole was for heavy draft jobs like plowing and the middle was for lighter jobs. He said don't even use the top hole--they used to cut off the top holes when a tractor came in with three holes. I'm not sure if this was an idea that came from Ford or if it was just the one dealer that cut them off.

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Bud Soda

07-11-2002 07:15:51




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 Re: top link hook up in reply to bill, 07-09-2002 22:36:33  
When I see two holes,I always stick it in the top one.I have never tried the bottom one.I can honesty say that I have never seen one with three holes.
Bud



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Appreciate the info

07-10-2002 12:14:13




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 Re: top link hook up in reply to bill, 07-09-2002 22:36:33  
Thanks all.



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Scott DO NOT use the top 2 holes at all

07-10-2002 09:27:42




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 Re: top link hook up in reply to bill, 07-09-2002 22:36:33  
When the tractor was new the top hole was intended for a cultivator but later they made it only 2 holes because of the stress the 3rd hole caused on the linkage under the hyd. top cover, all heavy or rough use equipment gets hooked in the bottom hole.



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paul

07-11-2002 08:32:11




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 Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to Scott DO NOT use the top 2 holes at all, 07-10-2002 09:27:42  
And we've almost never used the bottom hole on the 960!!! Top one gives the best geometrics on the 3rd arm for me, but I'm doing mostly mowing & other light stuff.

That bottom hole would put more stress on the metal itself tho, with the odd angles? I'd hate to put a heavy load on that hole.

--->Paul



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Bill

07-10-2002 20:51:04




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 Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to Scott DO NOT use the top 2 holes at all, 07-10-2002 09:27:42  
Thanks for your response. I haven't heard that one before but then I've never asked. This tractor has in the casting plow for the top hole but I can't read what it says by the other holes. What you say makes sense and I'll quit using it under normal use. I don't plow much anyway but next time I do, I'll try the next hole down and see if it works just as well. Thanks again.



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Phil (VA)

07-10-2002 06:58:02




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 Re: top link hook up in reply to bill, 07-09-2002 22:36:33  
The higher you go the more sensitive your draft control. If you are plowing, you need draft control. If you are bush hogging, etc., you do not need draft control, but rather position control, so it is moot. The lower you hook up the less pull you get from on top of the axle, and for implements like a boom pole I think that would be safer. Hope that helps.



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bill

07-10-2002 20:54:09




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 Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to Phil (VA), 07-10-2002 06:58:02  
Thanks for your response. Have you ever heard of not using the top hole as one response stated? I seems to make sense if you think of the added leverage.



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Phil (VA)

07-11-2002 07:22:56




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 Re: Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to bill, 07-10-2002 20:54:09  
I suppose it could be weaker there. Sounds like you got the point.



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paul

07-11-2002 08:38:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to Phil (VA), 07-11-2002 07:22:56  
Well, I get the point of putting more stress on the draft sensing equipment the higher you go.

But the lower you go, the more stress you put on the metal itself - you are leveraging that top link _down_ quite a few inches, and that angle would put more pull & stress on the bracket itself - like a teeter totter that is off balance.

As I see it anyhow.

As I said above, the top link seems 'normal' for positioning 3-point equipment, I use the middle hole for things with long pto shafts that don't fit the top one. Hardly ever used the lower hole. But I don't plow or such with the 3-point, lighter loads. Well, the 110 gallon sprayer might stress it a bit when I hit a bump....

--->Paul

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Phil (VA)

07-11-2002 11:36:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: top link hook up in reply to paul, 07-11-2002 08:38:02  
Yeah, I'm not against using the top link. Someone else said it was weaker and I guess it could be under some circumstances, but I've never seen one break myself. (I mostly drive Fergusons anyhow.)



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