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Marty

07-18-2002 12:58:19




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My '53 Jubilee was becoming hard to crank until one day it would not start. The battery was recharged,fuses checked(15 amp), points, plugs, condenser and rotary button was replaced, but still the tractor will not start. I suspect the coil as no fire is coming off the plug wire when cranked. Is there something else I'm missing as this tractor was recently purchased and I am still waiting on ordered manuals. Thanks for any suggestions.

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Larry NCKS

07-21-2002 04:33:04




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 Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Marty, 07-18-2002 12:58:19  
Sounds liike you probably already have an answer, but here's a new idea just in case. I have a '63 4000 that was hard startin for years after being an easy starter. The ignition switch fried one day and after replacement the tractor starts like it used to.



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Marty

07-22-2002 05:20:40




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 Re: Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Larry NCKS, 07-21-2002 04:33:04  
Thanks guys for all your help. I'll let you know how things turn out.



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Gerry

07-20-2002 14:42:44




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 Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Marty, 07-18-2002 12:58:19  
Marty: about 8 years ago when I got my Dad's NAA with the same problem. Real hard starting. Thought it was battery. Put a 8 volt in. No change. Thought the carb. No. Ignition. No. Put an amp meter on the starter and it was drwing over a 1000 amps. No load. I put a new start on and never had any more trouble. No voltage left for the ignition while it was cranking. Good Luck.



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Lon

07-19-2002 08:39:40




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 Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Marty, 07-18-2002 12:58:19  
Just a thought but have you tried a different battery? Sometimes its as simple as that. Especially if there are shorted cells in the battery it may not look as straightforward as it is. I would take the battery out, use jumper wires directly to a good battery and see if you have lights.



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Cave

07-18-2002 17:57:36




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 Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Marty, 07-18-2002 12:58:19  
Marty, you say it was hard to start prior to the no-go condition. When it finally started did it miss, especially when the tractor was bounced around? Could be a loose ign. wire anywhere from the switch to the coil, or even a loose connection (those pesky "crimp" on ends sometimes fail even though they look good).

You'll get a lot of good advice on this forum, when you finally get the solution please post it so we know what the bug was. Cave.

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Marty

07-19-2002 06:44:30




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 Re: Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Cave, 07-18-2002 17:57:36  
Cave,Thanks for your advice. Last time the tractor ran, we were going up a logging road and the engine was running fine. I'll certainly check all connections again. Also, just noticed my headlights are not coming on as they were previously. Any thoughts?



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Phil (VA)

07-19-2002 07:40:49




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 Re: Re: Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Marty, 07-19-2002 06:44:30  
Check especially the ground cable for the battery. They are notorious for looking good but not having good connection. Make sure the connection where the ground connects to the tractor is clean and bright and tight.



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Cave

07-19-2002 09:51:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1953 Jubilee in reply to Phil (VA), 07-19-2002 07:40:49  
Sounds like Phil might have something, especially if you're not getting juice elsewhere. PAINT and CORROSION can hide under EITHER end of EITHER battery cable, and when current finally jumps the resistance you'll get a slow start. Also, IF you get it running, check to see if either cable end gets hot, especially with a load (like the lights on).

(I had a Ford Ranger once that the pos. battery cable end - at the battery terminal - failed!)

Continued good luck, Cave.

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