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BOB

02-15-2003 04:29:10




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i wonder why most tractors have the exhaust come up to the top right in your face (plus rain goes in) instead of the bottom like the N-series ???




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BOB

02-17-2003 06:28:55




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
thanks for your reply, i guess we can sum it to FIRE.



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paul

02-16-2003 08:21:41




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
We had 2 960s, one vertical & one down & out the rear. Dad is the tightest person you'll ever meet. He couldn't spend money fast enough to get that exaust going up vertical, threw the old pipe away - and dad doen't throw _anything_ away.

Hot foot, and the bigger problem is hay, straw, & grass fires. You could see it on the beans from cultivating, any time the tractor stopped, burned some healthy beans. Used it to mix cement, and a big dead spot on the lawn. Gassed ourselves every time we hooked up a 3-point. Just all around hated it.

Couldn't afford to keep a bottom exhaust around here just for the fire danger!

--->Paul

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kydavid

02-15-2003 22:25:59




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
Used to have an N, out vert exhaust on it. Can't take the fumes, or the hot foot. Doesn't apply to a lot of you folks but a few years ago my cousin had an 801 with a tailpipe, was pulling a tobacco setter and one of the guys on the setter passed out from the carbon monoxide. Guy almost died and the dr. bill (that my cousin had to pay) was $9,000.



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Gary

02-15-2003 19:00:18




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
At one time, some areas required vertical stacks, even on trucks if they went to certain places, such as wheat fields. My brother bought a p/u from Kansas in 1946 that had a vertical stack. The orevious owner said it was required where he lived. Our neighbor in Missouri was fall plowing with his 8n, got astraddle of a moundof something with dry grass on it that he get off, burned his tractor and the whole field.

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Ron Standon

02-15-2003 09:54:23




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
Back in the early years, mufflers were not used because they robbed to much power. Exhaust back pressure etc. Vertical exhaust is the shortest route from the manifold. Hot air rises and this helps air flow and the shorter the exhaust the less restriction to flow. Check the water flow from your garden hose when it is short or you have a long hose. Also, every bend in the exhaust pipe or tail pipe adds comparable several feet of pipe. One other example of this is your funace ducts. Thay try to keep them as short as possible and free of to many elbows.

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kraig WY

02-15-2003 06:59:57




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
I don't know if this is the reason but, in the summer (fire season)I wont use my Ford 850 for fear of starting a grass fire. We're in our fourth year of a drought, this guy, just south-east of here, across the line in South Dakota was bush hogging and got stuck with a pretty healthy bill from the feds because his tractor started a grass fire. Under these condition I use my JD w/ a vertical exhust.

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Jeff Mans

02-15-2003 11:03:07




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 Re: Re: just a thought in reply to kraig WY, 02-15-2003 06:59:57  
I couldnt agree with you more, 2 years ago I was side raking with my ford 601, it started a fire in the windrow, the grass wasshort and all I had to do was take hay outta the windrow in order to stop it, but I never want to do it again. From now on the 5600 does the raking.



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Royce

02-15-2003 04:58:29




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 Re: just a thought in reply to BOB, 02-15-2003 04:29:10  
I wondered the same thing. I put a bottom outlet on my 841-D for a while. Too much diesel smoke while connecting implements and I noticed my sinuses stayed messed up too. Exhaust must have been wafting up from behind. So I put it back out the top and caught it on a limb first time I mowed. I suupose you can't have it all!



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RickB.

02-15-2003 08:01:04




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 Re: Re: just a thought in reply to Royce, 02-15-2003 04:58:29  
Horizontal exhausts are also good for baking one of your feet. And generally producing more heat near the operator than vertical exhaust. I won't have a tractor with horizontal exhaust, though some applications require one.



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