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801-861 what's the difference

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curt

05-14-2003 01:38:33




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I was just wondering what the difference was between the 801 and the 861 powermaster. and what number should a 801 have stamped in it above the serial number? should it be 801, th reason i ask is my uncle has a 801 that was bought new by my grandpa, he recently had it restored, the decals he has on it say 801 powermaster but it has 861 stamped in it above the serial number, at first I thought he had the wrong decals but after looking at pictures that he has of the tractor when my grandpa bought it new they also say 801 powermaster, so why does it have the 861 stamped in it????? it also has a jar type pre cleaner on it I have never seen this before

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ZANE

05-15-2003 19:02:23




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 Re: 801-861 what's the difference in reply to curt , 05-14-2003 01:38:33  
The 861 means that the tractor has a five speed transmission with a two stage or two disc clutch with allows this model tractor to have live Power take off. You can stop the tractor and the PTO can continue to run until the clutch pedal is completely depressed.



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Jim.UT

05-14-2003 12:16:05




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 Re: 801-861 what's the difference in reply to curt , 05-14-2003 01:38:33  
801 is the series. 861 is the model. The 801 series consisted of various models such as 821, 841, 851, 861, 871, 881.



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tom

05-14-2003 03:06:07




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 Re: 801-861 what's the difference in reply to curt , 05-14-2003 01:38:33  
check out he VIntage Tractor Resource website. It can provide more detail. In general the 100 Series Tractors have the 600 and 601 Series and , 700, 800 and 801, and 900 Series. The 600 Series that has a 134 Engine vs. the 800 Series that has the 172 engine.

All came in gas, diesel, or propane fuel systems.

Getting back to your question:

1955-57 Ford Produced the 800 Series with various transmission, PTO, and front end designs. For example: the model 821 did not have a PTO or 3PTH but most often a drawbar and perhaps a backhoe mounted in place of the 3PTH; the 841 had a 4 speed standard tranny and non-live PTO, 850 5 speed tranny non-live PTO, 860 had a 5 speed with a Live PTO.

Moving ahead to late 1957 to early 1958 Ford enhanced the cosmetics and produced the 01 Series. From 1958-62 Ford produced the 01 series that includes your 861. The 861 was known as the 860 in previous years.

The 861 Stamped near your serial number indicates this:
8=four wheel adjustable axle with 172 engine 6= 5 speed tranny with live PTO
1= Series designation (01 Series).

600 Series w/ 134 Engines were known as Workmasters and hence the decal Workmaster. The 172 800's are known as the Powermaster hence the decal.

The decal could have any number between the words Ford and Powermaster. It was common to just have the generic Ford 801 Powermaster decal. And it was common to have specific model designation such as Ford 841 Powermaster or in your case Ford 861 Pwermaster. In all of these scenarios the decals would be correct.

Well, this is just a start for you. They are good tractors.

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