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8NJa y

07-21-2003 16:54:46




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I tried one of DELL's three methods of exciting my alt. When I got the tractor there was a push button on the dash to excite the alt. I seem to find that method a little to "shade tree". I took out the switch and installed a 10 ohm 10W resistor and the tractor would not shut off. I placed another resistor in series (20 ohms Uncle Sam tought me well) and it would shut down. Now the question is: One resistor or two or another method?

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Bill W.

07-25-2003 16:14:33




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 Re: 10 ohms NoWorkie in reply to 8NJa y, 07-21-2003 16:54:46  
Your problem may be that you bought a 10 ohm resister rather than a 10 ohm diode. The resister wont work; the diode will. 2 for 59 cents at Radio Shack.



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Oldfarnboy Jim

07-24-2003 00:31:20




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 Re: 10 ohms NoWorkie in reply to 8NJa y, 07-21-2003 16:54:46  
Scottey841 is right on the money. If you're using an alternator like the Delco SI 10 and 7127 in the part number, it will feedback from the alternator and you turn off the ignition, but the engine keeps running. SIMPLEST FIX: Turn oof the ignition, then pull the choke out! Next simplest: install a 1 amp 50Volt diode (radio shack) in the alternator circuit that leads from the #1 contact to the accessory post. Ensure the arrow on the diode is pointing towards the alternator. I just did this on a 2000 and an 841. They both shut off with the key switch now. Good Luck, The easiest to understand conversion website is: Link

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Jim WI

07-22-2003 11:08:02




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 Re: 10 ohms NoWorkie in reply to 8NJa y, 07-21-2003 16:54:46  
Now that you have experienced the wonder of 12V conversions, I'm sure you understand why it's got to be the most common subject here.

My 2N has a 12V conversion that uses a sidemarker light as an idiot light. I've also heard of the pushbutton, diode and resistor methods. They're all intended to provide excitation current to the alternator while preventing the alternator from backfeeding the ignition circuit.

If I remember correctly, 10 ohms is the correct value for the resistor in the excitation circuit. However, there is likely supposed to be another resistor in the ignition coil circuit. If this resistor is not present, or is the wrong value, it's conceivable that the 10 ohms in the excitation circuit is not enough to prevent keeping the ignition ciruit going.

I'd check the ignition circuit to make sure it's done right -- depending on which coil you have.

How to tell? Well, first you need to figure out if you've got a 6V or 12V coil.

Have you a good meter? If so, the 6V coil should measure about an ohm on the primary side while the 12V coil should be closer to 3 ohms.

No meter? What tractor is this? (I'll assume this is a front-mount distributor on an N for now.)

The ignition circuit for a 6V coil should include the OEM ballast resistor (built into the "terminal block") and an additional resistor. The voltage at the coil with the ignition switch on, the engine stopped, and the points closed should be 2.5V to 4.0V.

The circuit for a 12V coil may have just one resistor (not the OEM resistor) or it may have various combinations. The voltage at the coil should be somewhere around 10V to 11V.

In either case, if the voltages are higher the coil life will likely be shorter and the 10 ohm resistor in the excitation circuit may not be enough to prevent backfeeding the coil.

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Scottey841

07-21-2003 19:42:03




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 Re: 10 ohms NoWorkie in reply to 8NJa y, 07-21-2003 16:54:46  
Check the archives here and search for diode. Some people put the diode in to solve the shutdown problem. A diode is a device that only lets current flow one direction. Very cheap item.



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