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3000 3-point lift in-op. Help!

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Adam

04-11-2001 18:31:06




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I am a lawn tractor guy that bought a 3000 Diesel today. The 3-point will not lift. When the lever is moved, nothing happens. No sound, nothing. The previous owner didn't have a clue about anything regarding this tractor. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks, Adam




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adam

04-13-2001 17:54:49




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 Re: 3000 3-point lift in-op. Help! in reply to Adam, 04-11-2001 18:31:06  
All, Thanks for the advice. I have followed every lead provided. I checked for air and saw a bubble or two come out while cranking the motor. The flow was siginificant but the bleed hole was normally about 3/4 full of oil while cranking (if that makes sense.)It seems that the 3 point is stuck in the up position. There is no pump whine type noise when selecting a higher or lower rear lift position. My feeling is that there may be some sort of disconnect between the lift lever and the control valve or whatever controls the lift height. What am I getting into by tearing into this thing?
Thanks, Adam

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TomG

04-14-2001 04:24:13




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 Re: Re: 3000 3-point lift in-op. Help! in reply to adam, 04-13-2001 17:54:49  
A 3ph should lower even if the pump isn't working—even with the tractor not running There are a couple of linkage adjustments on most hitches that could cause the problem. A closed flow-control valve or obstructed return line would do it. So would a maladjusted poppet valve. If the control rod also was maladjusted, then the lift may not quite raise to full height and would stop. If both the poppet valve and control rod were out of adjustment, it’s possible the lift would raise and then just sit there. It wouldn’t raise or lower, and the pump would see and open centre so the pressure relief valve wouldn’t open and squeal. It’s a bit of a long shot, but possible.

Another long shot is if the hitch has draft control. I’ve never been on a tractor with draft control, but conceivably a draft control lever at full light draft could do what you describe. My 1710 has a detend position at the top of the lift lever travel. The detend position is used when an external remote is powered from the 3ph. Unlikely, but conceivably such a feature could be built into draft rather than position control linkages. I hope it’s obvious that I just guessing at some of this stuff, and I don’t know the particular tractor.

A manual would describe linkage adjustments. Linkage adjustments or repairs on most 3ph's can be made without tearing down the hitch. However, you would certainly need a manual if a tear-down is needed.

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Windancer

04-13-2001 05:17:55




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 Re: 3000 3-point lift in-op. Help! in reply to Adam, 04-11-2001 18:31:06  
Don't overlook the draft control lever.
It's down under the seat on the right side.
it's about 4 or 5" long; rotating from the
horizontal to the vertical. I call the down
setting the "float" position with the implement
floats along without an exact position.
If it's down (horizontal), the lift will not
lift. At least, that's how it works on my
'74 gas 300.



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Loosenut

04-12-2001 10:16:17




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 Re: 3000 3-point lift in-op. Help! in reply to Adam, 04-11-2001 18:31:06  
Take the plug out of the back of the pump and turn the engine over with the stop pulled (don't start the engine). The pump may have lost prime sitting around. If bubbles come out let them out till only fluid comes out and put the plug back in.



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TomG

04-12-2001 03:18:56




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 Re: 3000 3-point lift in-op. Help! in reply to Adam, 04-11-2001 18:31:06  
It's curious a former owner would know nothing about the tractor, and that might suggest you're into a situation.

All sort of things can produce such a problem, and it would be difficult to check without some familiarity with the tractor and a manual. I don't know the tractor myself.

However, a couple of things to check that would not require repairs are: If the tractor has other hydraulics, a divertor valve may be in the auxiliary system position. If a flow control valve is fully closed, the 3ph won't operate, but a pressure relief valve may open and 'squeal' when the lift is raised. My 3ph is plumbed after the loader valves (in an open centred system). The 3ph won't operate if any of the loader valves are operated or stuck.

If there are other hydraulics and they work, then the hydraulic pump is good, and the problem may be the 3ph itself, and except for gross linkage maladjustment, repairs are needed. If no other hydraulics are present, then a pressure test would indicate if the pump is working. A pressure test needs a gauge and knowledge of where to tap into the system.

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