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Ford Power Steering Lines question

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AD Trailers

05-31-2004 18:54:10




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I have a Ford 2000 tractor, and I am having to spend a lot of time repairing holes in the power steering lines. The lines are a silver color, but I cannot tell if they are stainless steel, or what.

I have some spare copper laying around. Can I use copper to replace these lines.

I am referring to the 1/4 lines on the tractor (from the pump to the cylinders).

Thanks for your help!!!




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Thanks it's fixed

06-01-2004 10:33:36




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
Thanks for all the responses. Napa had what I was looking for. It matched up exactly.



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Thanks it's fixed

06-01-2004 10:30:52




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
Thanks for all the responses. Napa had what I was looking for. It matched up exactly.



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Joe(TX)

06-01-2004 10:11:09




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
There are a couple of things you say that do not sound right.
My tractor (4000 4 cyl)does not have 1/4 inch lines on the power steering, it has 3/8 lines, and there is no line that goes from the pump to the cylinder, The lines go to the control valve.
At any rate, the lines are steel. You did not say if it is the pressure or return line.



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Gary

06-01-2004 10:01:23




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
I have a pre 1965 2000 and the new lines were about $100 from CNH. On my other tractors 801's and 601 when the lines went they were replaced with hydraulic hose lines. Unless you are restoring the tractor I would would have regular Hydraulic hose lines made up-end of problems.



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Rod F.

06-01-2004 09:08:16




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
You don't say if you have a newer 2000 or a pre '65. I am not sure about the early variety, but I would think copper would not stand up to well on the later models. THe vibration would likely get to it. Pressure was somewhere around 900 psi, I think. That's a bit much for copper too. Steel lines are not too hard to make, provided you take care in flaring and bending. As mentioned below, a double flare is a must. Also note that there should be two or three plastic clamps that separate the lines at various locations and help prevent the lines from vibrating too much. They must be in place, or the vibration will break the steel lines at the flares. So, if you have the skill and the inclination, that might be the cheapest solution, as those lines are not cheap to buy from NH. Good luck.

Rod

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David L

06-01-2004 10:06:24




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 Re: Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to Rod F., 06-01-2004 09:08:16  
I had one of the steel lines break from vibration on my ford 3000 where they connect to the Power steering pump. The easiest fix was placing a flexible hydraulic line in it's place. End of problem.... and this line flexes nicely and absorbs vibration well.



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JIM

06-01-2004 07:56:32




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
GET A HYD LINE MADE FOR IT. TAKE FITTINGS WITH YOU AND KNOW HOW LONG NEEDES TOBE. MOST AUTOPARTS STORES AROUND HERE MAKES HYD LINE/POWER STEERING LINGS. MY TWO CENTS.



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paul

06-01-2004 06:08:49




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
Metal tubing???? My 960 has rubber hose, works great. Copper is pretty soft, I've never seen it on a tractor hyd system, but I don't know.

--->Paul



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TomG

06-01-2004 03:44:14




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 Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to AD Trailers, 05-31-2004 18:54:10  
I don't have a spec on hand for the max working pressure for copper tubing. It can be used for low pressure, low temperature and low vibration applications. I would get specs for the tubing and PS system. Even if copper would take the pressure and temperature I don't think I'd use it because of the vibration. If it were used, great care should be taken in flaring it since flaring weakens the tubing.

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TimK

06-01-2004 07:09:27




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 Re: Re: Ford Power Steering Lines question in reply to TomG, 06-01-2004 03:44:14  
Copper is soft, but even if it breaks or cracks, you'll just loose the power steering and a lot of hydraulic fluid. The problem with the location of these lines is they rub up against the housing which will probably wear thru coppper in no time. Whatever you use, steel or copper, it has to have a double flair. If you want a good fit and longevity, go to NH and get some new flex lines, which are a combination of flex line and steel. They fit and look good, and save you a lot of headaches. Well worth the expense in my opinion.

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