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Starting diesel with gas soaked rag!

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Bill from Mo

04-27-2001 19:40:12




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Read the post on using a gas soaked rag and holding over intake per ZANE"s instructions. Worked like a charm! Thanks a million ZANE! The old ether squirt would always make me pinch up!




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Bob Burke

04-28-2001 16:13:49




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 Re: Starting diesel with gas soaked rag! in reply to Bill from Mo, 04-27-2001 19:40:12  
When its cold my 4500 likes to not start. I think its all the cold fluids. The starter was just rebuilt. I remove the round intake screen and give it just the slightest whiff of either. The engine fires right off and idles until it builds oil pressure. Id rather use a little starting fluid than crank and crank the starter.



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Does not safe to me

04-28-2001 08:14:34




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 Re: Starting diesel with gas soaked rag! in reply to Bill from Mo, 04-27-2001 19:40:12  
Does NOT sound safe to me! If you had your GLOW PLUG HOT, May NOT be a good idea!

Why do you need to use a GAS soaked Rag?

Sounds like you motor has a problem?



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Roland Jackson

04-28-2001 14:02:03




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 Re: Re: Starting diesel with gas soaked rag! in reply to Does not safe to me, 04-28-2001 08:14:34  
I always appreciate someone pointing out a safey risk. What Bill is talking about is actually less risky than spraying either into the air intake. A gas soaked rag can't explode...and one does not have to hold the rag in order to start the tractor. On the other hand, with the older Fords, like Bill uses, one must hold the either can in order to spray it into the intake. That is like holding liquid dynamite! The glow plugs will start a diesel engine most of the time...but in colder weather, there are times when one has to rely on starting aids.

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charlie

04-28-2001 15:57:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Starting diesel with gas soaked rag! in reply to Roland Jackson, 04-28-2001 14:02:03  
back in the 70's, one real cold morning at the local NH dealership a mechanic had the same idea.soaked the rag and put it in the air boxand was called to the telephone.after several minutes he went back to try to start the machine.the only thing he forgot about was the rag.hit the glow plug side of the switch and BOOM,one burnt 4500.lucky for him he did live to tell the story.



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TomG

04-29-2001 03:02:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Starting diesel with gas soaked rag! in reply to charlie, 04-28-2001 15:57:11  
I start up my 1710 in below 0F temps without difficulty. Fortunately we don't often get much snow when it's really cold. I use a battery blanket, block heater and several magnetic heaters on the TX cases. I also use #1 diesel during the winter. After several hours on the block heater, it starts easy as summer.

I've always heard that ether in a diesel is a definite no no, and a gas soaked rag doesn't sound much better. I have heard of people spraying WD-40 into the intake, but I have no opinion there. Anyway, if I had to do any of these things during the winter, I'd think there was something wrong with the engine, but other engines may be harder to start. Checking the condition of the battery, cables and starter might be good.

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greg

05-08-2001 14:11:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Starting diesel with gas soaked rag! in reply to TomG, 04-29-2001 03:02:38  
Have started diesels with gas soaked rag before. Works good. As for the guy getting called to the phone with the explosion-let me say that many mistakes have developed from getting called away at inoportune times. Need to pay attention, and most importantly either don't use volatiles on glow plug engines, or disarm the glow plug circuitry before using such items. Have never used propane, but have heard of other mechanics using it with alleged great success. Use of ether is one of those things that should be a mandatory training course for new owners of diesel equipment. Ether is kind of like brylcreem- a little dab'll do ya! Should only be sprayed into an engine intake system with the engine cranking. Good luck all.

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