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JAE-Tx

05-07-2001 07:19:01




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"73 5000 - noticed the battery leaking down on the motor last weekend. Almost new battery, and the water level checked OK.

Went to start her this weekend and the battery was too weak to turn her over. Again, the battery was overflowing its caps.

Still has its' original Lucas gen. setup.

Where do I begin to look? Thanks in advance for any ideas.




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Robert Gallahan

05-22-2001 20:32:28




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 Re: '73 5000 battery drain ... in reply to JAE-Tx, 05-07-2001 07:19:01  
Another possibility is that the battery has a shorted cell. You didn't say when the battery was overflowing, so "Consider the Following..."

I had this problem with one of my pickup trucks last fall. When a battery fails in this manner, the electrical system exibits symptoms of overcharging (such as electrolyte bubbling out of the battery caps,) and the machine won't start the next morning because the battery appears to be dead.

With this type of failure, it can take a little head scratching (or a voltmeter across the battery when the tractor is NOT running,) to figure out what's happening.

* With one cell shorted, the result is that you now have a 4.5 volt or 10.5 volt battery rather than a 6 or 12 volt battery.
* Because the charging system expects a 6 or 12 volt battery, it overcharges the "new" lower voltage battery which resulted from the cell failure, and electrolyte spews out of the caps as it overheats.
* When you go to start the machine, there isn't isn't enough energy because of the shorted cell and the damage caused by the overcharging.

In short, the charging system and the battery need to match each other. The symptoms you've described could result from a failure of the charging system that puts too much into the battery, -OR- a failure within the battery which makes it "smaller" than the charging system expects. In my opinion, that's where you should start your troubleshooting procedures.

I think it's unlikely that you have a bad alternator diode or stuck relay in a generator regulator. Those problems usually just discharge the battery and wouldn't explain the electrolyte overflow. Hope this helps if you haven't already fixed the problem.

Bob G.
Colorado

PS: If the battery is the problem, please remember to ask your battery dealer to recycle it through proper channels. Because of the lead content, they're considered to be toxic waste and shouldn't be just chucked into the nearest dumpster.

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Brian

05-08-2001 13:24:34




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 Re: '73 5000 battery drain ... in reply to JAE-Tx, 05-07-2001 07:19:01  
The other problem you may have is more expensive. You say that the battery is leaking from the filler caps. Your regulator may have failed causing the dynamo to overcharge and "cook" your battery. this would be the cause of acid leaking out of the caps. Could mean replacing dynamo, regulator and battery. Suggest you wash engine and battery area down with washing soda or cover well with baking powder to neutralise the acid.
Brian

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TomG

05-08-2001 03:59:54




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 Re: '73 5000 battery drain ... in reply to JAE-Tx, 05-07-2001 07:19:01  
With the engine off, I'd check to see if there is current drain through the ground cable using a digital VOM. If there is, I'd take one fuse at a time out to see if the current drain stops. If a drain continues, it's likely the regulator or rectifier bridge (if the tractor has an alternator).



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Dave Mc

11-05-2001 13:20:19




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 Re: Re: '73 5000 battery drain ... in reply to TomG, 05-08-2001 03:59:54  
I had a similar problem with my '70 model.Unusually, the battery only drained on the odd occasion, then it failed completely. The system had been charging perfectly (check by attaching a voltmeter to the battery and then starting the engine, the voltage should rise by a volt or two). I replaced the alternator and cleaned the connections (Including those fitted when it was originally converted to an alternator) and this cured the problem. As a precaution I also fitted a master switch to the battery earth lead, so there's no chance of night time electrical fires.

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