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How much for a Jubilee??

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AJG

05-16-2001 17:40:10




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I'm hoping I can get some help on making an offer on this tractor:
I just stopped at a place where I saw the tractor in the back yard. It is not "up for sale" in the formal sense but the owner is willing to talk because he might be moving

Jubilee (I'm not sure of what year) with side step loader with "Ford" in block letters on loader and bucket;
Power steering
Has been turned into a "blue belly" and 12 volt.
Tin is perfect except for a bunch of small dings on the lower part of the fenders which look like tire chains slapped them a bit. No rust or holes but was definitely painted since the raised Ford script is gray
1100 on the working proofmeter which doesn't look new
Has been used for last 7 years (according to owner) to cut grass with a rear pto driven five foot finish mower
Starts immediately (he says it always has been a good starter); power steering and loader seemed to work well on short drive I took
He has never (!) changed the oil or the filter or checked the trans or hydraulic or rear end fluids; 3 pt seems to come up very slowly.
Says he adds a quart of oil each time he fills the fuel tank (the oil on the dipstick looked clear and golden)
Says he has never used the loader (the bucket has a very few scratches in what looks like original paint and no signs of metal wear or dings)
The bucket has two actuator cylinders so I assume it is power down; the loader cylinders and selector valve assembly have almost no dirt or sign of leaky hydraulics
Says he paid $7000 for it 6-7 years ago with the loader, bucket and rear finish mower; the owner says "I probably paid too much but thats the way I am. I don't expect to get that much for it".
The tractor is in rural Illinois. It has the virture of being about close to home. . . so it would be no problem for me to pick up.
Rear tires are 50-60%; front tires are 90%; the wheels are not loaded

So, folks, what would the range of dollars you would offer on this be??

Thanks for your help.

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Walt

05-19-2001 04:24:26




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 Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to AJG, 05-16-2001 17:40:10  
Hasn't had an oil change in 7 years? Needs a qt. of oil with every tank of gas, yet the proofmeter only says 1100 hours? Tool box on the right foot rest? Serial No. around 130,000? Its definately not a Jubilee and I would do a little checking on the cause of that oil usage. Could be a leak, could be much more serious (does she smoke?). Last year I paid $3500 for a cherry Jubilee (SN 66894) in Western NY with 2400 hours on it. Doesn't need oil between oil changes (done every 100 hours) and its paint is practically good enough to warrant entry in a tractor show. Offhand, I'd say the tractor you're looking at is worth quite a bit less than what your neighbor paid for it, even with the loader, ps and mower.

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AJG

05-19-2001 08:20:04




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 Re: Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to Walt, 05-19-2001 04:24:26  
Walt,
Thanks for the response. Let me try to clear up some confused "facts" I put out. As my wife knows, when I say "right" I mean "left"! The tool box is on the left foot rest. The medallion says Jubilee but the serial number must be that of an NAA. . .so it isn't a Jubilee. It doesn't smoke, even under heavy load but there definitely is a leak. Puddle on the trailer and more oil in the drip pan I put under it. I agree with you about the proofmeter; there is no way it has only 1100 hours. The clutch pedal shows "smoothing" so there are alot more than 1100 hours. As to the lack of oil changes. My son worked for Amoco until it was acquired by BP. On the company discussion forums there was one devoted to things to do with engine lubrication. There was unending debate between the petroleum engineers who favored regular oil changes and those who claimed regular filter changes and the addition of oil when needed was all that was necessary i.e. they never "changed" their oil. I have a brother who has 120,000 miles on a 1995 Tahoe and all he has EVER done is change filter every 3-5000 miles and add oil when the dipstick calls for it. . . which is rarely! Those who favor filter only changes all assume a regularly used engine. I have always changed my car oil every 3000 miles and we change the oil and filter in an airplane I'm involved in every 25 hours. I think it is a waste of money but I'm too uncertain to change!

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AJG

05-17-2001 19:40:02




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 Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to AJG, 05-16-2001 17:40:10  
Ok, guys Here (as we used to say)is the "skinny". It is a Jubilee/NAA with a rusted out right foot-rest tool box. The power steering is a belt driven unit with a resevoir and is mounted up front on the right so it must be an add-on. Best of all it works great. . . so far! The serial number from the owners bill of sale says Serial# 137608; does anyone know the ending serial # for the NAA? The hyd. pump is the pos. displacement, not the vane The mower is a 5' BEFCO (which I never heard of before) The loader is a yellow Ford 19-529; can anyone tell me about it. It has power down on the bucket; I say that not because I was alert enough to check the hoses, but because with the bucket flat on the ground you can use the bucket dump valve to lift the front of the tractor. The bucket is a Ford (does 18-119 make sense?) and is a little over 5 feet wide. Bigger and heavier than I need; I'll probably be looking for a smaller one. It has a heavily overpainted aux. hydraulic output under the seat. Doesn't have the knob handle I've seen on the Selec-trol. This one has a short vertical spring and a short crude looking vertical lever on the right of the assembly. Anyone know what it might be? It is five miles from my home; I might have gotten it for less but I paid him 5 big ones! At long last I have a decent size loader with P.S.!!

Thanks to all for your help
Austin

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Erich

05-17-2001 17:30:27




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 Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to AJG, 05-16-2001 17:40:10  
Two actuator cylinders isn't the same as dual actuating cylinders. There would be two cylinders for the boom lift and two for the bucket curl, each of these have to have a hose attached to both top and bottom of the cylinder in order for them to be dual actuating. A used trip bucket loader would sell for $300 - $500 in my neighborhood (Upstate New York). A used hydraulic bucket and dual acutuating cylinder loader like a Ford 720 or 730 goes for closer to $800 - $1,600.

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mark

05-17-2001 05:28:28




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 Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to AJG, 05-16-2001 17:40:10  
Sounds like a nice one, you should weight down the three point hitch with 300-500 pounds and check the lift, if not right not a real pain just time and money. In NY the used finsh mower would be $500 and the tractor $3500 - $4500.



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Jim.UT

05-16-2001 18:41:12




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 Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to AJG, 05-16-2001 17:40:10  
First question comes to mind is: Are you sure it's a Jubilee and not a "hundred" series? Power steering was not offered on the Jubilee, but could have been added later by the dealer...probably at the same time the loader was installed. The best way to nail it down is to find and decipher the serial number. Here's a site to help.

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Va Bil

05-16-2001 18:04:44




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 Re: How much for a Jubilee?? in reply to AJG, 05-16-2001 17:40:10  

Sounds like a winner to me..That close to home.All in working order it's a steal @$5000.00.Grab it Good loaders are expensive...



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