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Al in PA

01-14-2005 17:17:32




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I've been looking at a slightly used 3-pt log splitter at a reasonable price. Would I be able to run it off of my 3000's hydraulics (manual says it puts out 5 gpm)? I looked at a pto pump and hydraulic tank, but they cost as much (through Northern)as the log splitter.




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hvw

01-15-2005 08:43:03




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 Re: Hydraulics question in reply to Al in PA, 01-14-2005 17:17:32  
Al, the cycle time on the splitter will be so slow you won't be happy. Probably won't have the power you need either. I don't think you want less than 11gpm. I bought a 3pt splitter cheap and converted it to a self powered deal pretty reasonably. I left the 3pt attachment on it and can haul it where I need to with the tractor or tow it. Whether it's worthwhile depends on what you have to pay for the splitter.

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Al in PA

01-15-2005 10:27:24




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 Re: Hydraulics question in reply to hvw, 01-15-2005 08:43:03  
Thanks for the input. I was afraid it would be too slow, but I did not figure on too little power. Just out of curiosity, how did you convert yours to self-propelled? I have an 11 hp engine off a dead Generac generator: Maybe I could follow your lead on this.



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RickB

01-15-2005 14:10:34




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 No Power Penalty in reply to Al in PA, 01-15-2005 10:27:24  
Speed is all you will give up if the 3000's pump and relief are up to snuff. It should develop around 2400 PSI at the remote valve. That and a 4" cylinder should shove the wedge through most any wood. Not too fast, but feed it for several hours, and it will seem to get faster.



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Al in PA

01-15-2005 16:28:26




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 Re: No Power Penalty in reply to RickB, 01-15-2005 14:10:34  
My Woods loader runs off the tractor's hydraulics. I've read that this makes for a slower reaction time, but it never bothered me since I never operated one that had a dedicated pump. I was hoping I could simply disconnect the loader hoses and hook up the splitter hoses temporarily; then reverse the hookups when I was done with the splitter.



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RickB

01-16-2005 03:34:24




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 Re: No Power Penalty in reply to Al in PA, 01-15-2005 16:28:26  
Go right ahead and do that.



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hvw

01-15-2005 12:27:20




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 Re: Hydraulics question in reply to Al in PA, 01-15-2005 10:27:24  
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For a hudraulic tank my son and I welded end caps on a 4 foot peice of 6" square tubing. Cut holes for a drain, oil fill and pump outlet, welded in the fittings and then put strainers on everything. The tank is the axle and holds about seven gallons of oil. I got the pump and hydraulic fittings from Northern tool. The tirs at Walmart. The motor mount is a scrap peice of 8" c channel. You have to scrounge around for steel but it can be found. This splitter has handled everything we've piled on it including 16" forked oak logs. It's at least a 24 ton splitter. It'll work you to death. I ended up with about $500.00 in it and that's after buying a new 6.5 hp engine. If you have an engine you're halfway home already.

The problem with a pto pump in my opinion is that the tractor is running all the time, you have to take the pump on and off, etc. Let me know if I can help more.

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hvw

01-15-2005 12:30:34




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 another view in reply to hvw, 01-15-2005 12:27:20  
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This may be a better picture.



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Al in PA

01-15-2005 13:43:29




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 Re: another view in reply to hvw, 01-15-2005 12:30:34  
Great splitter! You've given me some good ideas. I'll price it out and see if it's feasible. Thanks, again.



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steveormary

01-15-2005 20:14:33




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 Re: another view in reply to Al in PA, 01-15-2005 13:43:29  
We had some fellers come in and cut wood after a major wind storm. We used the remote hydraulics on a Ford 800. A little slow but plenty of power. And no problems.

steveormary



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