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Bob Schmitt

02-19-2005 06:11:57

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I have found a Ford 800 Series gas engine tractor built in 1956, with a plow and back blade and was wondering what it might be worth. It runs and seems to work ok for now but needs tires and some motor work, transmision work and paint. Thanks in advance. Bob

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RickB

02-19-2005 10:04:09

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Bob Schmitt, 02-19-2005 06:11:57

I would give more for an 840 that needed tranny work than an 850 or 860 in the same shape.

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Jim.UT

02-19-2005 11:59:59

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to RickB, 02-19-2005 10:04:09

I have found nothing in any Ford literature that says the 800 was ever offered with a 4 speed. The only models listed are the 850, 860 and 820...all with 5 speed trannies.

If anyone has actually seen an 840 I want to know about it.

I know Ford started offering a 4 speed in the 801 starting in '58 (model 841) but I have never seen anything in print listing an 840.

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skycarp

02-19-2005 18:29:52

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 02-19-2005 11:59:59

Hi Jim.

See Master parts catalog, PA-8058, page III for a listing on the 840.

Gettin' any snow up your way?

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Jim.UT

02-19-2005 18:37:44

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to skycarp, 02-19-2005 18:29:52

I'm not sure I have that publication. If I do, it's the one at work. When I looked before there I didn't find any model listings at all. I'll look closer.

No snow yet. I think this is mostly a southern storm. Maybe by tomorrow...

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kcfan

02-20-2005 11:40:14

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 02-19-2005 18:37:44

Hi Jim

Yes the 840 is alive and well (1957). I own one and it runs like a sewing machine. After seven years in an old tractor barn (exposed to the elements), I loaded it up and took it home for some TLC. After new points, plugs, condenser, rear oil seal and regular maintenance it runs great. My plans are to restore it to original.

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Andy Wickiser

02-19-2005 12:47:56

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 02-19-2005 11:59:59

Yes the 840 exists, I have one. It could be they only produced them at the very end of 800 production right before the changeover to the 801 series. Mine is a late 57 and originally had a Powermaster logo.

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Jim.UT

02-19-2005 12:58:15

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Andy Wickiser, 02-19-2005 12:47:56

An actual tractor in existence beats anything in print! I stand corrected.

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paul

02-19-2005 12:23:24

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 02-19-2005 11:59:59

My shop manual reprint (PA-8058) lists them (840), but that does not exactly mean any were made.

I would pay more for an x6x always, always, if they are in similar shape. There can be more cost in repairing a x6x tranny, sure. That live pto (and possible extra speed) is so much handier for most anything I do - that is a $500 'option' to me! Obviously I'm comparing tractors in equal condion, not something beat & battered vs something near 100%.....

--->Paul

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paul

02-19-2005 09:01:44

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Bob Schmitt, 02-19-2005 06:11:57

Which 800 - an 860 is worth a lot more to those that know than some of the other models.

Tranny work would scare me without more details..... As well, some folks misidentify an 871 as an '800' and you would have an expensive to repair tranny....

--->Paul

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Jim.UT

02-19-2005 07:02:18

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Bob Schmitt, 02-19-2005 06:11:57

An 800 in good working order should be worth at least $3000 and as much as $5000 if it's really nice. The one you're describing doesn't sound that nice. With all the work you're looking at having to do, I'd try to stay below $2000. Depending on how much transmission work, WAY below. A pair of rear tires can set you back $600 or $700 with new rims. If the rims are not rusted out you can get by cheaper with just tires, especially if you mount them yourself.

Also, you didn't mention which model 800 you're looking at. An 860 should bring more money than a comparable 850 because of the live pto.

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Bobrh

02-19-2005 21:35:37

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 02-19-2005 07:02:18

The 840 wasn't in the 1955 literature nor was the 820 which according to Pripps book was introduced in 1956 as a 4 speed while the master parts reprint book shows it as a five speed. The master parts book also shows the 821 as a five speed but the 801 owners manual shows as a four speed. The literature advertising only the 850 and 860 that I have is dated 1956. My guess is by 1957 you could get an 840, but I would like to see a serial number of one to figure it out.

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Andy Wickiser

02-20-2005 05:41:00

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Bobrh, 02-19-2005 21:35:37

My 840 is serial number 144875.

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Bobrh

02-20-2005 12:44:39

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Re: Ford 800 tractor in reply to Andy Wickiser, 02-20-2005 05:41:00

144875 would have been produced in May 1961 and would be an 01 series.

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Bobrh

02-20-2005 12:48:47

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Re: Ford 800 tractor-oops in reply to Bobrh, 02-20-2005 12:44:39

144875 in an 840 would have been at the end of 1957 production run. I was looking at the wrong list of serial numbers.

Gary

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Andy Wickiser

02-20-2005 14:05:13

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Re: Ford 800 tractor-oops in reply to Bobrh, 02-20-2005 12:48:47

Yes, that is correct, 1957 model very close to the switchover to the 801 series. I guess the question becomes what was the earliest 840 produced? Were they only made at the tail-end of the 800-series? My hunch is yes but that's only a guess.

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