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Bottomboard

10-29-2005 19:41:58




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I have a 1956 (850) Ford...I have the specs on how much to change, but I need the exact weight of what is needed
Trans Oil-?
Hydraulic oil-?
Rear Axle oil-?
*In other words, what weight of each do I ask for and exactly what I do I ask for when I go to Advance Auto Parts or NAPA? Believe all these oils need changing as I can never remember them being changed before my dad passed years ago...Thanks for your assist... 850 tractor lives in Milton Florida---

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bottomboard

10-31-2005 07:14:11




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 Re: Oils in reply to Bottomboard, 10-29-2005 19:41:58  
*the below is what I found on a the tech page. Why do the older types use hydraulic for everything and newer hundred series use two different types??? Something does not add up here...I'm getting two different opinions....

Note #1- 9N, 2N, and 8N: the hydraulic fluid in the hydraulic system reservoir (located within the center housing) also provides lubrication to the transmission and differential. Golden Jubilee/NAA and Hundred series tractors have separate reservoirs for transmission lubricant, hydraulic fluid, and differential lubricant.

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jon luther

10-31-2005 17:53:19




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 Re: Oils in reply to bottomboard, 10-31-2005 07:14:11  
8n. 9n.put 80/90 lube in tran and rear end hyd. all togeather julibee and 600 series tran 80/90 hyd separte hold 2 gallon hyd fluid rearend 80/90 seprate 3seprate compartments



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bottomboard

10-30-2005 09:51:53




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 Re: Oils in reply to Bottomboard, 10-29-2005 19:41:58  
John in LA...I just came back from Wal-mart...picked up Hydraulic and Trans Oil...can one oil be used for both? I feel comfortable putting the 80-90W in the rear end. Do people use the Hyd oil for all three places is what I am asking. Seems the rear end would wear faster by not using the 90w there...thanks



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john in la

10-30-2005 11:27:03




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 Re: Oils in reply to bottomboard, 10-30-2005 09:51:53  
Yes some people use Hyd oil in all 3 places.
Even Ford changed later model years to coming from the factory with hyd oil in all 3 places.

I choose to use 90W in the rear end and trans because of the heat this far south. But this is a personal choice you need to make.



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john in la

10-30-2005 01:33:53




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 Re: Oils in reply to Bottomboard, 10-29-2005 19:41:58  
Trans and rear end..... .90W Hyd.....Ford 134 hyd oil or equivalent

Some use the hyd oil in all three spots. Even Ford changed to using hyd oil in all in later year tractors. If you do not have seal problems from one oil leaking into other compartments and mixing I would and do use the 90W this far south.



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bottomboard

10-30-2005 04:46:08




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 Re: Oils in reply to john in la, 10-30-2005 01:33:53  
Would you recommend Hyd oil in all three compartments or stick with the 90w for trans/rear end and stick with Hyd in other area.?? thanks



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john_bud

10-30-2005 18:41:19




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 Re: Oils in reply to bottomboard, 10-30-2005 04:46:08  
Bottom,

Tony Jacobs explained this to me and I have taken it to be good advice. The old tractors were built and machined to larger tolerances. The thicker oils like 90W, fill those tolerances better than the thinner oils like trans/hydro at about 10W. The newer tractors were and are built with much better tolerances and can use the thinner oils.

Many people have converted to using trans/hydro fluid in all three (trans, hydrolics and rear end) and are experiencing success. However, the tractor has gone 40 some years using 90W, will it go 40 more with trans/hydro fluid in the transmission and rear end? The price of 75W-90 is a bit higher than the wallyworld trans/hydro fluid, but the cost of a transmission rebuild is usually about $1000 in parts alone and a ring and pinion is expensive too. The choice is yours!

jb

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john_bud

10-30-2005 18:40:51




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 Re: Oils in reply to bottomboard, 10-30-2005 04:46:08  
Bottom,

Tony Jacobs explained this to me and I have taken it to be good advice. The old tractors were built and machined to larger tolerances. The thicker oils like 90W, fill those tolerances better than the thinner oils like trans/hydro at about 10W. The newer tractors were and are built with much better tolerances and can use the thinner oils.

Many people have converted to using trans/hydro fluid in all three (trans, hydrolics and rear end) and are experiencing success. However, the tractor has gone 40 some years using 90W, will it go 40 more with trans/hydro fluid in the transmission and rear end? The price of 75W-90 is a bit higher than the wallyworld trans/hydro fluid, but the cost of a transmission rebuild is usually about $1000 in parts alone and a ring and pinion is expensive too. The choice is yours!

jb

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john in la

10-30-2005 05:50:01




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 Re: Oils in reply to bottomboard, 10-30-2005 04:46:08  
Sorry but I think I may not be explaining it correct or you missed something.
So let me rephrase..... ..... ...

There is a seal between the hyd compartment and the trans. Also a seal between the hyd compartment and the rear end. If these seals are bad oil will leak from one compartment to the other and mix. If you use all hyd oil OR hyd oil in the hyd compartment and 90W in the rear end and trans is a personal choice.

So with that said let me repeat..... ..... ...
If you do not have seal problems from one oil leaking into other compartments and mixing I would and do use the 90W this far south.

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