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Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming

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BobReeves

01-01-2006 03:54:35




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Happy New Year everyone.....

Right now the clutch in my 3000 is OK but it's at the adjustment limit and know splitting the tractor to R&R the clutch is in my future. I have two shop manuals, a shop with cement floor, a few jacks and probably most of the hand tools. BTW: the way my shop is constructed an overhead hoist is not possible.

What I am looking for is any hints that might make the job easier and advice on what additional equipment I might need. What does the average home mechanic use to support the two halves etc? Engine hoist? Thinking if I can get an idea now, I can start collecting/buying/building so when the time comes I will be ready.

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Bob

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Rick Kr

01-01-2006 17:57:03




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 Re: Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming in reply to BobReeves, 01-01-2006 03:54:35  
Bob,
Split my 231 a year ago.
NH dealer recommended disconnecting the radius rods from the front axle so we didn"t have to mess with the power steering and cylinders.

We did almost the same as the picture from Rich.

Loosened the tranny-engine bolts then blocked the trans with 6x6s 90 degrees to each other (same way they lift a house). Then lifted the engine at the bellhousing with the engine hoist, and rolled it apart. Very easy.

Used a jack stand under each radius rod just to keep it close to position with the front axle.

Probably had 4 hours total, including a new rear main seal, throw-out bearing and new freeze plugs. (sorry to some of you that are offended by the freeze plug name that what we always called them, Welch plug for the perfectionist, I think!)

Made 2 12" long dowels out of 5/8" threaded rod to use to guide it all back together.

Good luck,
Rick

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Richard H.

01-01-2006 12:49:33




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 Re: Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming in reply to BobReeves, 01-01-2006 03:54:35  
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Bob, This hoist would handle the front half of the tractor if the axle was still on it. I use 4 jack stands under the trans. 2 side by side with 2- 2x6 boards cut to lenght to do the actual supporting and the other set behind them just for safety with the back wheels locked and chocked. All rental places have these hoist. This one is mine and I cuss it all the time because it is so cumbersome but they come in handy when you need them. Got a new air compressor the other day still on a skid in the back of my pickup and picked it right off with the hoist. Happy New Year, Richard

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sotxbill

01-01-2006 09:32:22




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 Re: Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming in reply to BobReeves, 01-01-2006 03:54:35  
be sure to drive wedges of wood between the front axle and the axle mount.. to stabilize the front half.. then useing floor jacks with jackstands as well,, split it by moving only the back half away from the front half... do not move the front half...

use the large rear tires to roll the rear back away.. use long thread rods between the two bell housing bolt holes to help line it up and gently useing the nuts on the treaded rods... pull it back together.... it will take a lot of time to put it back together as you have to get the clutch splines to line up and the pilot bearing... as the tractor gets close together, you can begin to use the clutch pedel to help take the pressure off the disc but only when the tractor is less than a inch apart... you can use the pto shaft to spin and help turn the pilot shaft a bit to line it up.. be patient and DO NOT GET UNDER THE TRACTOR.. and again,, use lots of jack stands as well as the floor jacks for addtional safety to catch the tractor if it should slide off the floor jacks.. actually a couple of spare tires stacked up under the rear half behind the floor jack will act as a good safe catch for the rear half... work slowly and carefully and this will work well... i am over cautious but i perfer to keep my toes and fingers... hth... bill

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Dave H (NY)

01-01-2006 05:32:11




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 Re: Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming in reply to BobReeves, 01-01-2006 03:54:35  
Bob, I have done several clutches in these tractors, if you have a few jackstands a pair of chocks and two floor jacks you should be good to go. The tools are just the normal ratchets and wrenches. Use the trans input shaft as the clutch alignment tool and replace your front trans seal while it's all apart. No big deal I have them done in a few hours with one helper.



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BobReeves

01-02-2006 02:38:01




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 Re: Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming in reply to Dave H (NY), 01-01-2006 05:32:11  
Thanks a million for the tips gang, sure make it sound easy.



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nhtractormd

01-02-2006 15:40:03




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 Re: Splitting a 3000, knnow it's comming in reply to BobReeves, 01-02-2006 02:38:01  
On more thing you should be careful about, when you start going back together and get the two halves close together put the transmission in gear and turn the engine over by hand to line up the splines in the clutch disc with the transmission input shaft. I have heard horror stories of people putting longer bolts between the engine and transmission and trying to pull the two halves together....can cause lots of damage. Just my two cents worth. HTH

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