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BDWIS

05-17-2006 14:20:18

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I have a 1964 4000 industrial with the 4 cyl. gas engine. When I bought it it had already been converted to the 1 wire 12v alternator(badly), however the start switch was corroded internally and you had to bypass with a screwdriver to get the starter to engage. 2 years ago the solenoid, key switch, start switch and some wiring shorted severly and melted. I couldn't find the correct parts in the time needed to get it running so installed a automotive car switch and 4 pole solenoid. I would like to put back the 3 pole solenoid and use the original start switch with the neutral cutout again for safety reasons with my kids always wanting to climb on it. I am also putting in a new 12v coil with no external resister. I have printed out the schematics for the 12v conversions from this site and have read a couple of the narratives. Is there a difference in the NAPA 3 pole soleoids? One person said to use a SI-56. Is this an insulated type solenoid that has power from the battery (+) post internally to the S terminal then goes to ground thru the start switch to energise the solenoid when the start switch is engaged? Also on the schematics for the 1 wire conversion, just above the key switch there were several wires going to what looks like a junction. What is that. It is not labeled. Sorry for the long post. Any help would be appreciated.

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BDWIS

05-18-2006 05:10:59

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Re: 1964 4000 Industrial 12v conversion in reply to BDWIS, 05-17-2006 14:20:18

John,
Thanks for the information and drawings, they will help alot. I'm using the 1 wire as that is what is already there, and I don't have a dash light. There is a hole for it but the light and all the wiring is missing. I thought that the 3 pole solenoid was also stock. I will see if the local NAPA has a 4 pole insulated solenoid as you describe, or I'll look into Walt's. I have already purchased the NAPA coil you stated.

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john in la

05-18-2006 00:55:04

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Re: 1964 4000 Industrial 12v conversion in reply to BDWIS, 05-17-2006 14:20:18

1] Why are you wiring the alt 1 wire??? A 1964 will have the dash warning light so you can easily wire this alternator with 3 wires the way it is suppose to work.

2] A 1964 does not use a 3 pole starter relay. It uses a 4 pole. The 4 pole is much better because the tractor will not start with out the key on. (the 3 pole will) You can get a 4 pole relay that is set up to work with 12 volts by getting the relay for a diesel.
UF40680 Starter Solenoid (relay type); 601, 801, 901, 2000, 4000 4 cyl. diesel (1958-64)
12 volt. Replaces number 311007FR
Price: $12.00 Walts tractor parts

3] A true 12 volt coil can be gotten at NAPA. Ask for part # IC14-SB

4] The junction box above the key is called a terminal box. A place to hook wires together where they will not ground out to the tractor metal parts. A lot neater than two wires twisted together and covered with tape.

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