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What differs between 5000 and 7000 diesel engines?

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Anders

06-29-2006 01:59:38




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What are the diffs between a late 5000 (256) and a 7000 (256T) engine except the turbo?

1. Is the crank the same?
2. Rods?
3. Pistons?
4. Head?
5. Valves?
7. Injectors?
8. Pump?
9. Bearings?
10. Cam?




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Fordfarmer

06-29-2006 19:40:01




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 Re: What differs between 5000 and 7000 diesel engi in reply to Anders, 06-29-2006 01:59:38  
Could be wrong, but I think the 7000's also had a crank-driven balancer that the 5000's didn't.



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sotxbill

06-29-2006 13:11:15




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 Re: What differs between 5000 and 7000 diesel engi in reply to Anders, 06-29-2006 01:59:38  
what he said..plus the 7000 has angle cut gears vrs spur cut gears in the tran and has a heavy chrome top ring to handle the heat from the turbo..



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RodInNS

06-29-2006 09:52:57




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 Re: What differs between 5000 and 7000 diesel engi in reply to Anders, 06-29-2006 01:59:38  
Anders,

Dimensionally, the crank is the same. Whether or not the part number, and the hardening process is the same, I really can't say.

The 7000's rods are drilled to supply cooling oil to the piston. The 5000's are not.

The 7000 has heavier pistons, and quite likely a larger swirl chamber, as the compression ratio is lower.

The heads may have different numbers.... But I'd bet they are darn close to the same on both, with ONE exception. The 7000 will have a different grind angle on the valve seats.

As above, the valves are different, possibly in hardening on the 7000, and definitely the grind angles.

The 7000 will have larger injector nozzels to deliver more fuel. The 5000's tips would likely max out before you got to that level of fueling.

Pump would be identical, with the exception that the big screw is turned out a little further on the 7000....

The rod bearings are different in that they are drilled to supply oil up through the rod on the 7000, and not on the 5000. Otherwise, babbit is babbit....

The cam would certainly be different to take advantage of different breathing and exhaust patterns, and develop torque at the appropriate speeds. The early 256T's used full flow, constant pressure turbo's. The later 256T's, after '79 or so (blue power specials) used a twin inlet, pulse turbo. Hence, a twin inlet turbo will require a different exhaust manifold. The 5000 and 7000 would still have different manifolds for mounting the turbo.
I would also expect the 7000 to have a larger volume oil pump to cope with the piston cooling.

Also take note that the 7000 had a heavier back end. The transmission was beefed up some over the 5000..... although the 5000 was quite stout to begin with.
There's probably more differences than that, but those would be the basics.... HTH.

Rod

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souNdguy

06-29-2006 05:06:50




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 Re: What differs between 5000 and 7000 diesel engi in reply to Anders, 06-29-2006 01:59:38  
Hit a MPC and compair thos part numbers.

I have an MPC for a 5000 with me at work. If you have access to a 7000 MPC. lets pick some items and compair numbers.

At first though.. I'd want to think the crank would 'fit'.. but would guess the 7000 has a beefier one.

I'v heard of people 'making' 7000's out of 5000's by adding a turbo and turning up the fuel.. and keep turning up the fuel.. and then eventually working the snot out of it enough to wring the crank off... etc..

Soundguy

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