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Engine clutch installation without alignment tool.

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Brad_bb

10-30-2006 11:13:30




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This weekend I reinstalled the engine in my 960. I have a dual clutch and didn"t have an alignment tool. I tried to align them by eye as best I could when I assembled the clutch, but I could see that they were not perfectly centered on eachother. The engine installed to within about and inch of mating the the trans case. Then I got the bright idea to install 2 bolts from the trans case to the engine block enough to take up any slack/play, but not force pressure against the clutches or pilot bearing. Then I installed the clutch pedal and linkage. I adjusted it so the pedal was pretty high and then compressed the clutch pedal by hand -which I figured would press the pilot bearing against the clutch arms and free up the clutch plates. Then I wiggeled the engine around for a bit(suspended on the engine hoist) until it found home. then the engine and case went together. I realize it"s a little shadetree like, but it seemed to work. There shouldn"t be any issue with this right?
PS. I plan to have updated photos on my pic page NEXT WEEK. I"ve not updated it in far too long(2 months).

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Brad_bb

11-08-2006 06:50:29




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 Re: Engine clutch installation without alignment t in reply to Brad_bb, 10-30-2006 11:13:30  
I didn"t apply pressure with the bolts. I intalled the engine into the trans as far as it would go by itself (the first clutch plat slipping onto the shaft). I used the bolts just to retain the engine in the "farthest in" position. Then I could use the clutch pedal to depress the clutch springs and free up the clutch discs. If I didn"t partially install the bolts to take up that slack, depressing the clutch pedal would push the engine out of the trans. I"m pretty confident I didn"t damage anything as I was never really applying pressure to anything. I was rocking things back and forth to find the alignment of the disk though. The only thing I had any concern about really was the pilot bearing, but I think it"s ok. Brad

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

10-31-2006 12:55:54




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 Re: Engine clutch installation without alignment t in reply to Brad_bb, 10-30-2006 11:13:30  
I have had a lot of luck with using my lathe to turn up a tool using wood dowel stock. I have also had luck using socket wrenches and extensions.



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old

10-30-2006 15:21:33




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 Re: Engine clutch installation without alignment t in reply to Brad_bb, 10-30-2006 11:13:30  
I usto do that in a 1971 GMC pickup we had and it worked well every time. But if you forced it in any way then you may have problems



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gerard

10-30-2006 15:08:11




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 Re: Engine clutch installation without alignment t in reply to Brad_bb, 10-30-2006 11:13:30  
It'll be fine. We've all had to resort to dodges like that at some time. By pressing the pedal you released the plates so they could move, and therefore wouldn't have damaged the plates as some when forcing the two halves together with draw bolts but without using the clutch pedal.



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Richard H.

10-30-2006 13:52:02




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 Re: Engine clutch installation without alignment t in reply to Brad_bb, 10-30-2006 11:13:30  
Brad if it was mine I would go ahead and pull it back apart again and have a good look-see at it. If I remember right, one clutch is recessed into the pressure plate right? Which does not leave much of an option where it goes and that leaves the second clutch that you said was close. I think you did good by using the clutch pedal. When I did the r&r on my 861 the collar was broken off right at the flange of the bearing retainer( the guide for the throw out bearing) Again, I would pull it apart and look.

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awhtx

10-30-2006 11:48:50




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 Re: Engine clutch installation without alignment t in reply to Brad_bb, 10-30-2006 11:13:30  

The dual clutch used in the "X6X" series is aligned when it is assembled by the factory/rebuilder. No alignment tool is needed for the installation.

The clutch discs are not real strong and will not tolerate any abuse during installation of the trans. If you used bolts to pull the trans up to the engine it is highly likely that you warped a clutch disc.

You will know if anything was damaged when you start the tractor. If the trans won't go into gear without grinding something is wrong. I learned all of this the hard way on my 861.

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