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Axle Bearing Removal 860

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DonCam

11-01-2006 18:09:42




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I have the rear end of my tractor apart and also would like to remove the bearings from my axles. I managed to get those darn collars off of the axles, must be a better design? Anyway, my press isn't big enough to press the axles from the bearings. Is there an easier way to get those darn bearings off. I brought it to some local machine shops and they don't have a big enough press to do it. Has anybody been able to get them off without a press?
thanks,
Don

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RickB

11-04-2006 05:49:36




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 Quick, dirty and simple in reply to DonCam, 11-01-2006 18:09:42  
A decent torch operator can cut the shrink collar and bearing off an axle without nicking the shaft. We had the OEM puller at the dealership, but at $70 per hour, it was more cost effective AND a more suitable repair to cut off the old bearings and install new.



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Jim.UT

11-02-2006 10:55:47




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 Re: Axle Bearing Removal 860 in reply to DonCam, 11-01-2006 18:09:42  
Yes, I have done it. I made a simple puller out of ordinary stuff based on a design pioneered by Ron Stine of Indiana. He shared the design with me and helped me construct my own puller. It works slick!

I have some photos of the contraption somewhere. I'll search around for them and email them to you.

Basically all you need is three lengths of threaded rod (36" long), a piece of scrap steel plate (3/8" thick or thicker....about 6" square), some nuts and a hydraulic bottle jack.

You'll need to drill three holes in the steel plate. And you'll need three course thread nuts that fit the threaded rod and three fine thread nuts that fit the studs on the bearing carrier of the axle. Weld the three fine thread nuts to the course thread nuts to form a coupling.

Stand the axle assembly on the floor with the brake drum on the floor and the axle pointing to the ceiling. Thread the fine side of your newly constructed "combo nuts" to three of the bearing carrier studs. Thread the three threaded rods into the course side of the combo nuts.

The other ends of the threaded rods go through the three holes you drilled in the steel plate. Oh, you'll need three more course nuts to hold the plate onto the rods. Now set your bottle jack on top of the axle and under the steel plate. Start jacking and the bearing will come free.

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135 Fan

11-01-2006 21:20:54




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 Re: Axle Bearing Removal 860 in reply to DonCam, 11-01-2006 18:09:42  
I did all the final drive bearings in a 335 JD crawler. I ran a weld around the bearing race with MIG, but stick would work also. When they cool just a little bit, they fall right out. Mine were the outer races but ones on the axle should come off when they're hot. Saw it done to remove them from a big four wheel drive tractor as well. To easy to wreck something using a torch. Dave



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DonCam

11-02-2006 03:38:02




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 Re: Axle Bearing Removal 860 in reply to GlenIdaho, 11-01-2006 19:48:18  
Glen,
Thanks I kinda wanted a chance of saving the bearings if they look good. The axle bearings don't seem bad, seem being the key word. My ring gear bearing races were shot though, so who knows what those axle bearings look like. I think the axle seals are bad as grease was on the brake backing plate. I guess I just need to forget about saving em and run a tig weld on em like I have been doing on all of the others.
As for the brass nuts, I think I'm going to use steel. I forgot which fella on the board said it but those brass nuts won't take the torque. I'm just gonna use never seize like I normally do. Most cars and stuff have been using steel forever, and the tractor had steel also, so back with steel I guess.

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Jim.UT

11-02-2006 11:01:36




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 Re: Axle Bearing Removal 860 in reply to DonCam, 11-02-2006 03:38:02  
How did you remove the collar? If you did it the way the shop manual says to, you won't be able to salvage those bearings.

The prescribed method for removing the collar is to drill a hole through it and then crack it open with a chisel. That dumps lots of metal shavings into the bearing making it unuseable.



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DonCam

11-02-2006 17:12:09




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 Re: Axle Bearing Removal 860 in reply to Jim.UT, 11-02-2006 11:01:36  
Jim,
I wish I would have seen your message before this morning. The puller you describe makes a whole lot of sense and is very easy to make as you describe. In fact I have most of that stuff laying around with the exception of the studs.

For the collar I did drill the hole and yes your right there is a whole bunch of metal that ends up in those bearings. If I would have taken the bearings out they would have cleaned up ok but your right can't remove those collars and leave the bearings in, would have never got all of those shavings out. I ended up using a couple of chisels to get the bearings off. I welded up around the race and then managed to get some chisels between the brake plate and axle face and worked them apart till I couldn't go no more. I then put some wood on the floor and slammed the axle against the wood while holding the bearing housing until it came apart, not easy but worked and axles are fine. And those bearings were, key word were in real good condition, but the seals no doubt had to be replaced.
Man I like the simplicity of your press, get those pictures if you have em. I can pretty much picture what you did though, now that the ideas out.
Thanks alot for the info.
Don

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Jim.UT

11-02-2006 20:29:28




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 Homemade bearing puller pics in reply to DonCam, 11-02-2006 17:12:09  
These pics are the ones Ron Stine sent me years ago when I was going through that job. Mine doesn't look as nice as his, but works just as well.

Here's the top plate. Shape and size is not critical as long as it's big enough to hold three rods and have room for the jack piston.
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Here are the three rods with the custom made nuts on the ends. This shot is kind of fuzzy.
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Here's a close up of one of the custom coupling nuts. One end is fine thread to go on the bearing carrier, the other is course thread to go on the threaded rod. I can't remember the diameter, but 3/8" sticks in my head. Whatever fits the bearing carrier studs and the beefiest threaded rod your hardware store carries.
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And finally the puller mocked up on the end of a workbench. Imagine the jack is perched atop the inner end of the axle shaft and all 3 threaded rods are attached. The rods are then threaded to three of the carrier studs, then you start jacking. It will pull that bearing right out.
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DonCam

11-03-2006 16:07:34




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 Re: Homemade bearing puller pics in reply to Jim.UT, 11-02-2006 20:29:28  
Jim,
Thanks for the pictures, from your description in the previous post that's about what I pictured.
And dang it's really simple too. Hope I don't ever need it but good to know in case someone else needs it or I come across an axle similar to these fords that something like that can be used on.
Thanks,
Don



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