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Anthony

11-13-2006 16:11:36




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My neighbor has a what he calls a Ford 800 for sale and wants me to look at it if I'm interested in buying.

What should I look at to be sure it's not cobbled together from NAA/600 parts and 800/2000 parts. What tells me for sure it's the 172 engine? What will the serial no tell me and what options should I look for?




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Dean

11-14-2006 04:20:50




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 Re: FORD 800? in reply to Anthony, 11-13-2006 16:11:36  
Anthony:

Like other posters have said, 6xx parts are interchangeable with 8xx parts and many are visually identical from the outside. This problem is most annoying when trying to visually distinguish the engines.

That said, the obvious visual differences between the 6xx and 8xx series tractors aside from emblems and decals follow:

The fuel tank is larger on the 8xx series resulting in a hood that sits higher. The steering wheel is just above the dash on the 8xx wheras there is abour 2" of steering coulum visable on the 6xx.

The differential is viaually larger on the 8xx series.

The rear rims and tires are wider on the 8xx series.

The carburetor, air filter, and exhaust is larger on the 8x1 series. Note: the 8x0 series uses the same size carburetor and air filter as the 6xx series.

As you know, parts are interchangeable and there are tractors out there that have been assembled from parts from both series. If you cannot determine if the tractor has a 172 CI engine, attach a 6 foot bush hog and head for some heavy grass. If you can pull it in third gear it is not a 134.

Dean

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Jim.UT

11-13-2006 20:07:32




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 Re: FORD 800? in reply to Anthony, 11-13-2006 16:11:36  
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I just sent you an email. Take pictures, post them here. Some of us delight in finding fault (or inconsistencies) in old Fords. It drives some others here nuts when we do it, but maybe you'd rather we do it to this tractor before you bought it?

Here's a photo showing where the serial and model numbers are.

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awhtx

11-13-2006 19:15:56




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 Re: FORD 800? in reply to Anthony, 11-13-2006 16:11:36  
The problem you're faced with is that the engines, transmissions and rear axles are all interchangeable. The transmissions were the same whether they were used in the 600/601 or the 800/801. The 600/601 used a smaller engine and a smaller rear axle than the 800/801.



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old

11-13-2006 16:48:14




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 Re: FORD 800? in reply to Anthony, 11-13-2006 16:11:36  
On the left side behind the starter/below the battery box is a flat spot. The model number and serial number will be there. If it has a 4 speed it will have a model number of 840 if it is an 800 series tractor. If it has a 5 speed tranny then the numbers will be either 850 or 860, the 860 is the better of the 2 because of a 2 stage clutch giveing it live PTO

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Joe(TX)

11-13-2006 18:15:01




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 Re: FORD 800? in reply to old, 11-13-2006 16:48:14  
The tractor serial number could also mislead you if the transmission has been changed.
I manages to make a guy mad at a consignment auction over the weekend who had a tractor he claimed to be a 741 which is what the serial number said. The problem was that the tractor was a utility and not a row crop. He insisted it was all original.
I looked at a 9X1 row crop tractor once that had a 640 transmission.
The engine numbers (EAF, EAE) can tell what size engine it is. Seach the past replys.

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