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Bamaguy

01-05-2007 08:37:33




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I have a Ford 660 that seems to leak at just every spot that it can..... from the valve covers on down. I bought the tractor in the fall and had no plans on restoring it, but I am considering it now. I know I want to at least put it back to being a solid tractor for use around my place. I am sure there are posts that will apply to my questions, but I just thought I'd ask what you folks would advise on replacing all gaskets and seals and what sort of labor time and costs would be involved. I'd appreciate any help.

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grizz3000

01-07-2007 23:38:56




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Bamaguy, 01-05-2007 08:37:33  
I feel your pain BDT. I got a 55 640 that I dreamed of fixing up. I only need it to mow,dig me out of snow drifts, move some dirt every so often, etc. I thought I'd have plenty of time and money to do little fixer-upper projects on it.

Now, months later, I just want mine to work when I need it too! Now my loader isn't working worth a darn, my three-point doesn't like to work in the cold, oil leaks around the filter plate, etc, etc, etc.

I wish I would have just caved in and bought a new reliable tractor for the 'real work', and waited to buy a 'restore project' to work on while the reliable tractor waits at the ready.

Turn the snow machine off in Colorado! Please!

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BDT in Minnesota

01-06-2007 11:42:02




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Bamaguy, 01-05-2007 08:37:33  
I would like to run a few questions past you..Was the tractor purchased to do work FOR you, or to BE MORE work for you...If the tractor runs ok in it's present condition, and is doing it's intended job,I would have reservations about tearing it to pieces and going without a tractor for who knows how long{???} A few more things to ponder are the condition of the entire machine..For a few : the sheet metal condition, the radiator, water pump, electrical systen, steering sector and front axel components, gas tank-is it rusty or leaking- steering wheel, all four tires and rims, seat, gauges, hydroulic system, clutch, brakes, pto, casting problems such as a welded up block or cracked transmission or rear end housing. axel seals, excessive smoke from engine, grinding in any of the gears..Well, this should be a big enough iceburg for now...But to make a point; look the whole tractor over and make a list of everything that you notice. Like others on here have suggested, put on a valve cover gasket and clean up the old gal..These old tractors don't have to be perfect to do a good job serving your needs...I have seen alot of people spend big piles on money on equipment repairs without a benefit of return...You can always"""""RESTORE" your tractor at a later date, but beware that the time, labor and parts costs often exceed the expectations or estimates..Either way, enjoy your Ford and Happy New Year.... Bruce

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Bamaguy

01-06-2007 18:31:07




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to BDT in Minnesota, 01-06-2007 11:42:02  
You bring up some good points. I bought the tractor for use around here.....bushhogging, disking and some box blade work. I didn't buy it for a project.....I don't really have the skills of a professional mechanic and don't want to spend a pile of money or time working on it. I would like to take care of the leaks and clean it up. Maybe make a project out of it down the road.



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Ind Ford

01-05-2007 15:25:30




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Bamaguy, 01-05-2007 08:37:33  
If its running ok, I'de just fix the valve cover gaskets and other acess gaskets that are easy to get at and then buy some extra fluid and floor dry. Thats what I did.



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wayne2

01-05-2007 18:09:20




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Ind Ford, 01-05-2007 15:25:30  
I concur with IND.FORD,maybe a powerwashin and tightenin-wrenchen wala- Wayne



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Ind Ford

01-07-2007 10:04:35




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to wayne2, 01-05-2007 18:09:20  
I agree Wayne about the power washer. Even bush hogging makes my 600 look bad but I have the washer hooked up in the corner of the shop and 5 min beats $1500 or more fixing leaks and overhauling. Duct tape, wrap ties and the power washer pretty much keeps me happy.



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old

01-05-2007 11:05:41




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Bamaguy, 01-05-2007 08:37:33  
Well first off if you have the $$ I would just go ahead and rebuild the engine. Kit will cost you $500 give or take a little then another $200-500 for machine shop work, but when your done you will have a new engine in it and it should last you your life time plus some



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Bamaguy

01-05-2007 11:33:54




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to old, 01-05-2007 11:05:41  
Old,

What would be a reasonable labor cost for a complete rebuild? I know it would vary by area of country..... but ballpark.



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old

01-05-2007 12:10:23




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Bamaguy, 01-05-2007 11:33:54  
Well if your talking about haveing a shop do the rebuild for you I would guess with parts included by them $1500-2000 give or take a little. Of course that also depends on the shops in your area. I know to buy a complete rebuilt engine from valuebilt there price is $1900-2000 plus shipping so my guess might be a little low. You have to figure half or more of the cost to have an engine rebuilt is labor

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john_bud

01-05-2007 10:35:02




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 Re: Leaking 600 in reply to Bamaguy, 01-05-2007 08:37:33  
The seal kit is pretty cheap. Taking it all apart is fairly easy. If you have the tools and a nice place to do it. If you are thinking of paying someone to split the tractor, remove the engine, take apart the engine and put in new gaskets (maybe the same with the transmission and rear end?) --> that would cost some bucks. Probably in the $500-1000 range for labor only, depending on where you are and what all you want apart. If you also want it cleaned, degreased prep'ed and nicely painted, that can be in the $500-2500 range depending on condition, repairs needed, prep and the quaity of the paint etc.

Then you run into "project creep". If the tractor is split, you may as well put in a new clutch and pressure plate, throw out bearing and pilot bearing. Oh, the flywheel is grooved, it will wear the clutch fast if I don't resurface it. Heck, a new input shaft seal too. My that hydraulic pump is sort of weak, it's off now may as well rebuilt it. Say the front end could use new bearings too and the steering box is leakings. Isnt' that battery old too? Oh, the battery tray is corroded, might get a new one since it's off.

The list never stops!

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