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Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel

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A. Bohemian

03-09-2007 11:09:34




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My little 2600 has a freeze plug in the back of the water jacket that is always leaking coolant into the clutch bell housing. Over the course of the next few years this will damage the clutch and I will eventually have to have the tractor split, and the clutch, throwout bearing, and freeze plug replaced, and after a only few months useage the new freeze plug will start to leak again...

I simply don't need the freeze plug. It hardly ever gets below 20F here, it's only below 32F for about twenty days spread evenly throughout the fall and winter and rarely for more than about seventy-two hours straight. In addition the tractor is run strictly on a fifty-fifty anti-freeze/water mixture and kept in an insulated (although not heated) garage.

Can't I just seal the damn freeze plug hole up? How would I do that?

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Hal/WA

03-10-2007 21:44:21




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
Have you tried stop-leak? I have had pretty good luck with the kind that looks like ground up aluminum, and also with the Bars Leak type.

I have not ever worked on that model, but assume that it is not easy to change the core hole plug. If it is in a location that you can get to, to remove the plug and replace it, I would be tempted to install a new one with epoxy for a sealer after first cleaning the hole out very well. I doubt that it would leak after that, but it might be a real pain to remove it if you ever want to rebuild the engine.

Some people call the core hole plugs freeze plugs, but I have never seen one actually come out from freezing...but I have seen many blocks cracked from freezing water inside. Good luck!

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A. Bohemian

03-10-2007 08:22:23




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
Thanks for the comments, everyone. Do I understand correctly this isn't a freeze plug but rather a product of the casting process? My New Holland dealer called it a freeze plug; hence my terminology.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough in my original post. This is now the THIRD time this plug has failed since about 2000. My fear is that something has happened to hole in the water jacket the plug seats into; otherwise they would not be failing with such regularity.

As I pointed out, I run this tractor on a strictly 50/50 anti-freeze water mixture so rust is not likely the culprit.

I am not prepared to simply have the plug replaced according to the usual shop procedure. One can't simply repeat the same process over and over and somehow expect a different result! (Insert your own Iraq joke here.)

Obviously, the correct solution is to replace the water jacket. I'm still in denial about this; I hope to pass on through bargaining and acceptance, but in the meantime...

If this was only a little coolant leak I wouldn't sweat it so much; but this business of having to take the tractor to shop every few years so they can split it and put in a new clutch is not acceptable.

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cdmn

03-10-2007 11:06:58




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-10-2007 08:22:23  
I worked on a tractor with a core-plug block heater. Didn't want that anymore, so I bought an expandable core-plug. It's hard rubber with a washer on outside and a large flat threaded disk on the inside. You tighten it up until it squeezes out and fits tight. Should last as long as a water hose, I'd think. Just keep an eye on it. I realize that you might have an inaccessible spot to work in.

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jmixigo

03-09-2007 19:12:49




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
Option one-just replace the plug with a standard tin plated steel one, lasts 5 to 20 years.

Option two-brass freeze plug, lasts 10 to 20 years.

Option three-find appropriate pipe tap, thread the hole and screw in a iron or brass heavy plug, lasts as long as the engine block does.

You pays yo money an you takes yo choice.



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RodInNS

03-09-2007 14:55:43




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
I'm with murn on this one.... Put a new plug into it, some sealant on it, and be done of it. Should last another 30 years.

Rod



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dan hill

03-09-2007 14:41:47




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
They are not freeze plugs.The cores from the casting process have to be dug out thru these holes.Engines that use plain water have trouble with these plugs rusting out.



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murn ga

03-09-2007 13:17:55




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
Bo, there is no reason on God's green earth that a freeze plug would rust thru over once in the tractors life time,if you use the New Holland plug suggested. The plug was changed [after 2600 produced] to have a coating to resist the rust.



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octave

03-09-2007 14:22:46




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to murn ga, 03-09-2007 13:17:55  
Go to NAPA & get a brass freeze plug.



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k sampson

03-09-2007 12:08:18




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 Re: Leaky freeze plug on 3 cyl. Diesel in reply to A. Bohemian, 03-09-2007 11:09:34  
Can you put a freeze plug heater in the one that leaks?



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