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ford1971

05-11-2007 07:19:20




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My friend has a 1963 5000 sos 4 cylender.The cable that controles the gear shifter has broke. Now he wants to replace the cable and the shift level box also. my question is what could of made the cable brake? Can you shift thourgh the gears by just pulling on the cable. I never drove this tractor so I dont know how is works or how it ran. He did not even know it had ten gears on it. He only used 3rd gear.

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ford1971

05-11-2007 11:11:14




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 Re: 1963 ford 5000 sos in reply to ford1971, 05-11-2007 07:19:20  
He told me it was a 63 and had the shop manual for it but it got wet and was throun away. I priced the two parts and came up with about 160 for the top shifter and 50 for the cable.last year. It is in N cause u can fire it up and it wont go any were. NO he told me it was in N when it broke. I just want to make sure that if he replaces the cables and shifter that some thing else is not broke that would cause the new cable to brake also. Thanks for the in put. He paid $5500 for the tractor and a 5 foot king cutter 3 years ago and now would reather fix it then sale it. I would like to but it but 5500 sounds to hi for me. His wife said she wants a new one and told me to just a good price for . What would be a go price? And can u swap out the sos for a manual trans and how hard would that be?

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Chris in MO

05-11-2007 19:23:21




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 Re: 1963 ford 5000 sos in reply to ford1971, 05-11-2007 11:11:14  
You could switch the transmission, but it wouldn't be cheap or easy.

As to your wife wanting new, just remember money doesn't grow on trees.

In the last few years, purchasing only used or at auctions I have purchased the following: a Ford 5000 with a loader, 2 Allis D17s, a manure spreader, a hesston haybine, a MF small square baler, a bar type hay rake, a tractor powered post hole auger, a 5' tractor mounted tiller, various other small implements and attachments, and a 1965 GMC 15 yard dump truck. All for slightly more than $15k. You can get an awful lot for a little if you are patient and self-controlled. You do have to be willing to work on the equipment and learn how to know a good value when it is staring you in the face.

Christopher

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Larry NCKS

05-11-2007 10:22:37




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 Re: 1963 ford 5000 sos in reply to ford1971, 05-11-2007 07:19:20  
First off he needs to figure out what he"s got. There is no such thing as a "63 5000. When he or you get"s that figured out post back. a 5000 cable and mechanism would be vastly different than any of the "63s.



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bjr

05-11-2007 09:10:33




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 Ford SOS shift cable in reply to ford1971, 05-11-2007 07:19:20  
I have the older 4000D SOS and so far I've not needed a cable. But, I am concerned as to the availabitily of the cables for future use. Does anyone have a aftermarket replacement resource? I love the old tractor's SOS with the low gears for tilling and want to keep it for some time. bjr



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Chris in MO

05-11-2007 07:49:51




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 Re: 1963 ford 5000 sos in reply to ford1971, 05-11-2007 07:19:20  
I've got a 5000 sos, also. I just replaced the same cable last year. There are two cables for controlling the transmission, one from the shift lever down to the top of the transmission and the other runs from the top of the transmission down to the actual mechanism in the transmission which changes the gear settings (I can't remember the name of that part, and I should look it up). Those two cables have tiny little clips on the end where they mate together.

If you are fortunate, it is the clip on the top cable which broke. The bottom cable is no longer serviced by CNH. I don't know why he would want to replace the shift lever assembly if only cable is broken. There should be a screw holding that assembly together, and if it is like mine, it will have a heck of a lot of torque on it. It could be tough break it off. I took it to a my CNH dealer. One of their mechanics got it loose for me, gratis.

How could it break? Metal fatigue I guess. Or perhaps snagging inside the tubing.

Now the bad news. The cheapest dealer part for just that little 22" long cable that I could find was around $329 and the highest was $435. I finally found it locally. The guy I got it from has a local reputation for working on these sos transmissions, though he is actually a retired machinist. We went down into his basement, which was filled with boxes and milk crates, etc. He picked out three different boxes which he probably hadn't touched in a decade and found it in the second box. I paid him $100 for it. I guess that is what happens with rare tractor parts, they take on great value.

While you've got that tubing off, keep the transmission covered. Depending on the gear it was in when it broke, you might have to open up the transmission cover (on the bottom) and manually move the actuator in the transmission to get the top of the lower cable out of the transmission. After you get the cables joined, you will have to do some fine tuning to get the gears in the right positions on the shift lever.

The best plan is to get a shop manual and perhaps an operators manual for this machine. I'm sure you can find them on this site or somewhere else online.

Hope this helps. Just from my experience. A rather expensive repair, considering how simple it actually is.

Christopher

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