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Air Force One

05-18-2007 19:31:23




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I have a 1956 (850) Ford...I need to replace the fuel cut off valve under gas tank...its pretty tight...do I need to take tank off to replace this? OR can I do it without taking off fuel tank? thanks everyone....




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jra

05-20-2007 07:11:32




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Air Force One, 05-18-2007 19:31:23  
Those are hard to get off with the tank on, but can be done. Seems like it's hard to get the screen that sticks up in the tank out. If I remember right, I take the valve cover off to make a little more room. There is a rivet in the valve that keeps the shutoff screw from coming all the way out, if you drill that out you can screw it out of housing and replace 0 rings and it will be good for another couple of years. Beats paying $60 bucks for new one.

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Dean

05-20-2007 10:49:47




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to jra, 05-20-2007 07:11:32  
JR:

That technique works with the screw type valves but not the lever type. The only solution that I am aware of for a lever type valve that is leaking around the stem is to replace it with a poor quality new one.

Dean



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RWS

05-21-2007 06:23:35




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Dean, 05-20-2007 10:49:47  
Dean

I have a 871 with the lever type valve. I have repaired two valves. The first one repaired has lasted about 3 years. The second one is a spare and has not been used. In a nut shell, I ground off the tabs on the lever end that holds the disk on that end of the valve. The valve then will come apart and you can replace the O'Ring. Reassemble the valve and use a generious amount of J Weld to cement the disk on the end of the valve. It is spring loaded so I use 2 very small vice grips to hold the disk in place while the j weld is drying. Do not use the quick dry J Weld.
So far it has worked for me. If you have kept some of the failed valves repair one or two of them. If you have any questions or would like a picture of my repaired spare valve let me know.

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Dean

05-21-2007 07:12:40




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to RWS, 05-21-2007 06:23:35  
Thanks, RW.

I'll give it a try. I have 5 or 6 of the leaking valves in my "parts" supply.

Dean



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Dean

05-19-2007 15:42:34




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Air Force One, 05-18-2007 19:31:23  
AF:

You can do this without taking the tank off if your hands are not too big. I"ve done it at least a dozen times on my Fords within the last 10 years.

It helps is you have a good 3/8" combination wrench and a good 1/2" open end wrench that is not too long. If the bolts do not want to loosen easily (they probably will as they are in blind holes) be careful so that you do not round the corners-use the box end of the combination wrench to break them loose.

If you have the original style fuel line it will probably be easier, and it may help to loosen or perhaps unfasten it at the sediment bulb. The toughest part will probably be getting the fuel line started into the new valve. Be careful that you do not cross thread it.

Do yourself a favor and get the correct O Ring for the new valve from CNH and do not over tighten the bolts.

Once you do it the first time it will be easier next time. This is good because you will probably be doing it about every two years.

Dean

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soundguy

05-19-2007 21:49:39




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Dean, 05-19-2007 15:42:34  
I am SOOOOO glad that both my 660 and 850 ( 1955 models ) have the NAA style tank with the threaded tap....

Soundguy



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Dean

05-20-2007 04:25:20




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to soundguy, 05-19-2007 21:49:39  
Sounder:

My 860 is a 1955. It has the original fuel tank with the lever style fuel valve in the tank center.

The good news: I"ve gotten changing valves down to a science and can do it in around 45 minutes.

The bad news: All replacements come from the same manufacturer and are all of the same poor quality, and they cost nearly $60.00.

Dean



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soundguy

05-20-2007 18:57:48




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Dean, 05-20-2007 04:25:20  
Both my tanks 'appear' to be vintage.. however have only the NAA style threaded nipple Both of mine are also early 55 models. it was my guess that they may have been leftover tanks fromt he NAA series that were used untill stock was depleted. In any case.. I'm glad...

Soundguy



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Ken in Michigan

05-19-2007 03:44:11




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Air Force One, 05-18-2007 19:31:23  
Yes it's tight! Need to make sure the fuel is drained out, then possibly have one side of the tractor higher than the other so any residual gas is away from the opening. There are some cheap shut off valves out there too. TSC is one of them. Be careful tightening the steel line to the new valve. The cheapie valves will strip or break before the line is tight enough to stop leaking. Most likely you have the valve with two screws and a rubber o ring. It is tight but can be done. Removing the valve cover to the engine may give you the extra room to get the job done easier. Good luck and a heapful of patience for you. Ken

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soundguy

05-18-2007 22:28:42




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to Air Force One, 05-18-2007 19:31:23  
That may have a threaded port.. OR the 2-crew type. Either should come off more or less easilly. if it is the threaded one... use a pipe wrench. if it is the 2 screw one, just get those screws out.. and there is not much else but the tap and an oring..

Soundguy



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Air Forc One

05-21-2007 16:16:09




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 Re: Fuel Shut off in reply to soundguy, 05-18-2007 22:28:42  
Thanks everyone for your knowledge...looks like a rainy day job for the fuel shutoff valve...Paul



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