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Update-unstuck the leveling box !

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Billy NY

08-27-2007 18:33:33




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Pulled the crank end of the rock shaft, left the fork on the lower arm, got it nice and hot with the oxy/acetylene torch, just started to glow a bit, started with a 24" pipe wrench, dropped to a 14", was still hard to get a bite on that rod, but after trying a few different ways with the jaws it did bite in enough, but slipped off easily, then used a hammer to give the rod a few whacks, it broke the bond, just moved a little, hooked it back to the rockshaft, used the crank to wiggle it, few whacks with the nylon/rubber mallet, back and forth, it finally unscrewed. The threads seemed to be a little beat up, chipped or worn, probably just never greased, rusted and pitted the threads. I went into the "archives" and had to break out a new and unused tap and die set from my grandfather who was a chief engineer on the ships, Greenlee, 3/4" x 10 NC is what this rod/pinion is, it glided over the threads so they were not "buggered" up, just rusted heavily, the the grease fitting was long gone on the fork. Ran the tap into that fork and those threads were loaded with burnt old grease, powdery carbon, oiled it, back and forth, wire brushed, cleaned with solvent, dried, and greased, re-assemble, it worked smoothly, only problem is that it's bent close to the pinion end, so when cranking it ovals, not sure I could straighten that being it's so close to the end with the pinion gear, it works though, big improvement !

The bend is the only thing that makes it a little stiff to turn, thought I saw those pinion rods offered as an aftermarket item, was less than $20.00 have to wonder if they are the same thing, length, gear on end, and 3/4 x 10 NC thread.


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soundguy

08-28-2007 06:18:38




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to Billy NY, 08-27-2007 18:33:33  
My 2n and my 5000 have a bit of a wobble.. but they work.. no biggie.

Good job at fixing yours.

Soundguy



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Billy N Y

08-28-2007 07:49:22




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to soundguy, 08-28-2007 06:18:38  
I'm really surprised it came free, it was stuck tight, seized up as one piece.

It's of those things you just have to be persistent and patient with while working on it, no penetrating oil was going to touch this one, heat and some impact/vibration with the hammer on the pinion rod was the only thing that was going to break the bond. So I kept at it, and yesterday it finally gave up.

My biggest problem was getting a bite on that rod, figuring heating up the sleeve/fork was the best thing as heating the rod exposed out of the sleeve would serve no purpose. Just like a seized bolt, but much easier to get the heat where it needs to be, the piles of black carbon that emptied out was interesting, some grease bubbled out, not much though.

It's not any wonder of science or as I'm sure there are many people who turn wrenches that deal with things like this every day, just part of the job etc. I'm just slightly elated that I've got a leveling box that works, now that 2 bottom ought to flop over the furroughs and I can finally level up the brush hog.

I have an idea of what happened, I think this tractor was in a riding arena, thus it's worn condition when I bought it from the person who got it from them, grease fitting was missing, threads still there, I put a new one on, but it would not seat fully, so I just snugged it up for now. It never got greased and seized up, a .10 cent part and some grease would have easily avoided the problem.

On another piece of equipment I have, same thing, no one greased a fitting on a big ole clutch assembly pilot bearing, just a few shots every so often is all you need, bearing failed and wallowed out the hole in the driven plate, finally the woven material drive links took the abuse for too long and they let loose. Just a couple shots of grease really makes a difference on some things, yet people don't do it.


I did see just that pinion rod available, and I believe the fork is available too, after seeing many complete after market assemblies.

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soundguy

08-28-2007 08:13:29




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to Billy N Y, 08-28-2007 07:49:22  
I found much the same in my 2n leveling box. i know my tractor say lots of dirt work.

In my case, I had to replace the splines on both sides. As i had more time and scrap than money, I used a threaded rod and cut the old rod.. welded a new section on, and then found a large 3/4-10 nut, and trimmed down the fork, welde dthe nut on then ground down.. chased everything and it works good.

Check to see if your zerk is bottoming out due to it being a long fitting?

Soundguy

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Billy NY

08-28-2007 09:02:51




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to soundguy, 08-28-2007 08:13:29  
It looks like a shorty, I carefully threaded it in, and checked the threads, looks to be the right size, I'll see if any of the taps I have will work, tried a 1/4" one in that greenlee set, no go, so it's in there a couple of turns, and not cross threaded after backing er out, just tight to where you would break it off if you tried to seat it further, it takes grease with no leaks, just have to be careful and not knock it off I suppose, it's the small things that sometimes count the most, I figured something would have broke, or it would have been unservicable while fooling with this thing it was stuck so bad. I'll bet that repair you made lasted no problem until you had more money than scrap ! :) Funny how that pile of scrap can yield some nice pieces to get by.

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soundguy

08-28-2007 10:36:57




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to Billy NY, 08-28-2007 09:02:51  
I have a set of grease zerk tools.. got them at TSC.. handles 2 thread sizes.. has a built in tap and thread chase, as well as a zerk wrench, even works with right angle and 45' zerks.. has a broken zerk extractor as well.. pretty cheap tool.. might be worth picking up if you do much with zerks.. etc..

Soundguy



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Billy NY

08-28-2007 15:00:50




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to soundguy, 08-28-2007 10:36:57  
Right tool for the job, I'll look for that the next time I'm there, sounds like a handy thing to have.



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soundguy

08-29-2007 06:09:28




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 Re: Update-unstuck the leveling box ! in reply to Billy NY, 08-28-2007 15:00:50  
Yep.. and they make one in metric too..

soundguy



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