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Larry NCKS

09-18-2007 23:45:53




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Priced a return fuel line for my '64 4000 D the other day. Fifty-one dollars for a little eighth inch line eighteen inches long. Any aftermarket suppliers of this line? It is the one that runs from injector fitting on the head to the bottom of the T under the fuel tank. Think I'll likely try to braze it if there aren't any other alternatives to the Ford (NH) part. My problem is a wear spot where the line rubbed the power steering pump bracket. Thanks!

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RodInNS

09-19-2007 10:13:48




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
I would avoid using copper on a tractor. I've never had much luck with it as the vibration gets it in short order... or that's been my experience anyway.

Rod



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Jerry/MT

09-19-2007 09:18:42




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
It's a return line so there is no reason for it even to be steel so it doesn't have to be steel or even metal. You could use a rubber fuel hose.



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61 uni

09-19-2007 08:17:09




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
Case N/H was to make more money by rapeing us on parts that they do selling their new junk tractors. My .02 in parts prices



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john_bud

09-19-2007 07:38:57




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
I used the "shudder" 1/8" copper solution. Changed the outlet fitting to standard crimp ferrule. It's low pressure and low volume, works fine for now and if it fails a later, there is 24 more feet of line waiting...

jb



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bjr

09-19-2007 06:20:44




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
Napa or one of the better auto supply should have some of the 1/8" plastic oil guage line that should hold up okay and be a heck of a lot cheaper. bjr



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Larry NCKS

09-19-2007 05:29:28




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Fitz, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
Yep inverted flair is the term I think. Thanks!



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Larry NCKS

09-19-2007 05:24:30




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Fitz, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
Thanks guys. Need to get it off and take a closer look. Am suspecting that it has other than just plain flared fittings. I know the engine oil pressure gauge line isn't just a standard flare.
We'll see!
At least the idle missfire was cured by just tightening the injector lines at two of the injectors. That stopped the biggest share of leaks.



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soundguy

09-19-2007 05:26:01




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-19-2007 05:24:30  
Inverted flair?

Soundguy



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soundguy

09-19-2007 05:08:53




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
I agree with rod.. for that low psi line you should ahve many options for replacement.. even 'shudder' .. copper.. or at least. brakeline.. etc..

If it were me.. I'd silver solder it up using a piece of copper pipe as a reinforcing patch.. or I'd run some brass around it... I solder much better than i braze.. so for low psi stuff... i prefer the solder.

After that, rig a vibration pad or shield for it using an old piece of fuel or radiator line split and wrapped around it, and then ziptie it for strain relief. That's what I did for 2 hyd lines for PS on my 5000 and 2 similar lines on my 7610s that were all rubbing on my metal cowling.. etc..

Soundguy

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RodInNS

09-19-2007 04:26:13




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 Re: Price of parts in reply to Larry NCKS, 09-18-2007 23:45:53  
I know the feeling... The lines for my '74 4000 were over a hundred bucks. I just made one up. Dunno if there is anything available in the aftermarket for either yours or mine.
Is there a reason you couldn't just flare up a steel line for yours? I just used a piece of rubber fuel line for mine with barbed fittings.

Rod



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