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HV-Ga

11-29-2001 15:51:46




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They say there are no stupid questions so here goes. Can someone tell me what the flow control knob does on a 3000. I'm using only a box blade. Do I need to adjust the knob in any particular way? Thanks.




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TomG

11-30-2001 05:23:09




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 Re: 3000 flow control knob in reply to HV-Ga, 11-29-2001 15:51:46  
They are valves that limit oil flow out of the lift cylinder. I think most if not all 3ph's have two possible oil paths to the cylinder. One path is through the flow control valve and the other is through a ball check valve that is part of the flow-control valve assembly.

As such, the flow control valve doesn't affect the flow of oil to the lift cylinder, and adjustment changes only the speed of lowering. Adjustment is important with a heavy implement like a scraper to prevent it from crashing down when the 3ph is in lower mode.

Few hitches have down-pressure. Weight and action of an implement is the only thing that holds down a hitch. They will float up over bumps etc, and flow control adjustment changes how fast an implement returns to its position level. As such, the adjustment is important for operations like mowing. Too slow a hitch will leave a long patch before it returns to it's position.

An operation like plowing with a draft control 3ph works similarly. The only difference with draft control is that the hitch gets a powered lift in response to an increase in load rather than a passive upward float. In plowing it's also important to adjust how fast a 3ph returns to it's position.

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Michael

11-30-2001 07:45:03




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 Re: Re: 3000 flow control knob in reply to TomG, 11-30-2001 05:23:09  
Nice information. How do I tell if my check valve is leaking? I notice a flow of oil from the back of the piston assembly when I try to lift heavy objects, so I assume it is either the check valve leaking, a leaking control valve or a bad gasket at the back. Any information would be appreciated.



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TomG

12-01-2001 04:51:09




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 Re: Re: Re: 3000 flow control knob in reply to Michael, 11-30-2001 07:45:03  
Nice information. How do I tell if my check valve is leaking?

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Hard for me to say without knowing the tractor. On my own 1710, I'm usually forced to refer to exploded parts diagrams to come up an answer.

I will say that it's doubtful the flow control valve itself is leaking. However, the main possibilities are the packing around the knob itself, a plug for pressure testing or the plug that houses the valve. Most everything else is internal and would leak back to the sump rather than externally. I did refer to the valve as a check valve, but it's better to call it a safety valve, because there is something called a check valve in the 3ph control valve assembly. The part in the flow control valve is called a check ball.

The purpose of the safety valve is to protect the hitch against high load shocks when the 3ph is in neutral or lift mode. It's a ball valve and spring. A high load overcomes the spring and allows oil flow from the cylinder to the sump. These safety valves do fail, and I guess there'd be a chance of a leak in the return passage back to the sump. However, a safety valve failure usually would result in a 3ph that wouldn't lift a heavy load.

Faulty o-rings on the lift cylinder piston would allow oil to pass out of the cylinder under heavy loads and likely would produce an external leak.

Hope this helps. I know it's mostly theory.

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Jim K

11-29-2001 16:24:24




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 Re: 3000 flow control knob in reply to HV-Ga, 11-29-2001 15:51:46  
HV hear goes. the flow control regulates the movement of the three point lift when either in the draught mode or the position mode. It speeds up or slows down the response of the lift so that you can adjust according to soil conditions ie;when pulling a plow in hard clay or soft or rocky etc, for a better quality of work. turning the knob out slows down the response of the cylinder, while turning in speeds up the response. I hope I've been of some help. Good luck with your tractor.
Jim K

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HV-Ga

11-29-2001 18:35:09




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 Re: Re: 3000 flow control knob in reply to Jim K, 11-29-2001 16:24:24  
That answered my question. Thanks Jim



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