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Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor

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Bobby 1000

10-14-2007 09:08:24




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I need to remove the power takeoff from my Ford 5000 but have been unable to get to the nut which holds it on. I removed the upper plate which contains the seat and lift arms but still am unable to gain access. Any suggestions? Thanks.




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Bobby 1000

10-17-2007 16:06:47




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to Bobby 1000, 10-14-2007 09:08:24  

Hey Rod and murn. The PTO shaft is out now. You were correct Rod about there being a plate on the botrtom through which access can be gained. But hat is on the nrewer models of the 5000s. I don't know what year they started putting that plate there. On the older models access has to be gained by removal of the right axel housing. I talked to my Brother-In-Law this morning and he has removed the broken shaft. There are 10 nuts that hold the right axel housing on to the rear end. He has ordered a Ford 5000 shop manual so if anybody has a question about that model I will get the answer for you. Thanks for yuour help.

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Old Ford Mechanic

10-15-2007 08:47:48




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to Bobby 1000, 10-14-2007 09:08:24  
Bobby,I don't know about the 5000 but,i have replaced a broken shaft on 5600.This is the way i did it. #1-remove the cover just above where the shaft exits the rearend.4 bolts i think.#2-Look inside and you will see a castellated nut with a cotter pin installed.#3-get yourself a stool to sit on as patience will be needed.#4 using pliers,screwdrivers,ect straighen the key and remove.Take care not to drop it in the housing.I ran a peice of wire through the head of the key to prevent dropping it.#5- you may have to bend a wrench to get it on the head of the key.#6-Now while hoding the nut with the wrench,turn the shaft from the outside to loosen it.It should not be all that tight.If it broke off to short to get a pipe wrench on it,you may have weld a nut on it to turn it with.Make sure you hold your hand inside to catch the nut when it comes off the shaft.Its not that hard to do ,took me about an hour.Good Luck.

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murn ga

10-14-2007 10:48:27




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to Bobby 1000, 10-14-2007 09:08:24  
You can gain access by removing the rh axle housing or do like the mowing crews that use to break several shafts. Remove the 4 bolts up above the pto shaft and pull the pto drive shaft out. You will then work with one hand and blindly remove the cotter pin from the castle nut on the end of the shaft,then the nut and pull the pto shaft out. Not easy but can be done.



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RodInNS

10-14-2007 14:44:07




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to murn ga, 10-14-2007 10:48:27  
I didn't think that removing the axle housing would help, but I'm not familiar with the 5000 in there; only the 10 series.
Like you say, remove the top link rocker and then the bearing plate and pull the upper shaft, then remove the rest through the top.
Iffin this was an open station tractor, and I had to do one, I'd just do the rear split and it's all right there and easy to see. Cab models would make me think about that....

Rod

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Bobby 1000

10-14-2007 17:02:31




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to RodInNS, 10-14-2007 14:44:07  

Iffin this was an open station tractor,

I'm not sure what an open station tractor is.

I'd just do the rear split and it's all right there and easy to see.

By doing a rear split I assume you mean splitting the back section of the tractor from the front part. I just discussed what you said with my Brother-In-Law and he said that splitting it would still not give access to the power takeoff shaft because of the axel housing. He said that the axel housing will still hide the shaft and the ring gear. The power takeoff shaft broke off and fell on the ground and the rest is still in the tractor. The remaining shaft is about 10 inches long with a bearing and a gear on the end of it which is held on with a nut. Getting to this nut is the problem.

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RodInNS

10-14-2007 18:08:08




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to Bobby 1000, 10-14-2007 17:02:31  
You're talking the output shaft?
Disregard my other post entirely.
I'd crawl under and look up at the bottom of the tractor. Is there an access plate there below the PTO? If so then the tractor's I'm familiar with are accessed from there.
On the other hand murn may be correct in that the 5000 is accessed through the axle housing. I dunno.
I do know that on the later tractors nothing was accessed from the axle housing. The pto gears cam out the bottom; the shafts out the back, and the clutch out the front after the transmission is split off. All you see of the PTO from the axle housing on those tractors is one gear through an oil hole and nothing else.
Again, I'm not right familiar with the 5000 in that regard so mabey I should just shutup....

Rod

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Bobby 1000

10-14-2007 18:59:39




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to RodInNS, 10-14-2007 18:08:08  
No please don't shut up! Your input is appreciated. I will have my Brother-in-Law check on that access plate on the bottom in the morning. It makes sense.


All you see of the PTO from the axle housing on those tractors is one gear through an oil hole and nothing else.

From what he told me this evening you are right about being able to see the PTO shaft through a hole in the axel housing. I will relay what you have said to him in the morning and post back what he says. Thanks for your help.

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Bobby 1000

10-15-2007 08:34:45




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 Re: Removal of the Power Takeoff - 5000 Ford Tractor in reply to Bobby 1000, 10-14-2007 18:59:39  
I just talked to my Brother-In-Law and he said that there is no access plate on the bottom. He did find out hat he 2000, 3000 and 4000 Ford trasctors are alike but he 5000 is different. He has ordered a shop manual and when it comes in it should tell him what he needs to know. For informational purposes I will post the results here. Thanks to both of you for your help.



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