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appalachiaal

11-13-2007 17:49:43

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I have 1967 Ford 4000 diesel 3 cyl. I've only had it a short time, just put new tires on it and now the engine blew. A rod came thru the side of the block. Not good. third party image

When I bought the tractor, the engine was just recently re-built ( I was told and believe, the oil still looks new and the tractor ran great and sounded great). What I'd like to know is why this happens. It was running great right until it blew, I was brush hogging, not a big load, normal rpm's. I'm guessing that when it was rebuilt something was not put together right. Any other ideas, does this happen very often with this tractor? Any thing I need to check in particular when I rebuild it other than the crank? Should I go ahead and do an overhaul why it's apart even though the other two cylinders should be ok?

Thanks for your help

Allen

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TomTex

11-15-2007 16:11:30

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

Allen, go back to the seller and find out details about the "rebuilt". Ask for a parts replacement list. Thw way some people butcher the word "rebuilt" is unbelievable. I have seen folks just put in a set of rings and tell people it was "rebuilt". If you cannot get details, I would not reuse anything without a good macnine shop checking it all out. Best to get a running engine and rebuild it right. Tom

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B Neal

11-15-2007 08:25:16

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

I have a "like new" (don't think it's ever been run) 3 cyl gas engine from a "64 4000; maybe you're interested? I could make you an "irresistable offer". I'm about 75mi NE of Winnipeg Canada. Please let me know; I'd like to get rid of it. Thanks

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wedge40

11-15-2007 07:05:40

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to soundguy, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

Retento said: (quoted from post at 06:17:27 11/15/07) Ford 201 diesel on Ebay, Item #120042481847

You can try this place for a complete engine.

www.----- --. They have complete rebuilt engines. Take the old one off, slap the new on in and send the core back to them. May not the cheapest solution, but once you add up the cost of new parts and your time might be a wash.

Wedge

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Retento

11-15-2007 05:17:27

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

Ford 201 diesel on Ebay, Item #120042481847

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gerard

11-14-2007 14:54:12

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

sounds like the rebuilder overtightened a big end bolt. If it was looose, you"d have heard it knocking. Straightforward rod breakages due to fatigue are uncommon - unless someone put a deep "nick" in it through rough handling.
If you"re going to reuse the other rods, make sure they"re straight & fit all new bolts. As for rebuilding with a new block - do your sums first. If you can get one, a recon may be cheaper - or, as others have said, a good secondhand one. Once you"re into a new block (plus gaskets, another rod, maybe a set of pistons etc etc) you are quite likely over the cost of a "short block", ready to fit.

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hurleyjd

11-14-2007 07:01:10

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

You might check into the price for a replacement engine from Farmtrac.

Farmtrac Ford Engine

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appalachiaal

11-13-2007 19:07:43

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to MoodyLady, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

Thanks everyone for the advice. A few things I didn't think of. Glad to hear so far that this doesn't seem to be a common problem. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I tear into it.

Thanks

Allen

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Brian in MA

11-14-2007 05:53:12

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 19:07:43

I'll throw this out there also. There are at least some of these tractors with bad SOS trannys. I own one. You might save a few dollars by buying a good runner with a bad tranny and make the swap, or just the engine from one of these tractors. It won't give you a rebuilt engine but it might offer some savings and many years of servicable life and some extra spare parts to boot. If you're buying a block and rebuilding anyway, this might be an option. Either way, good luck.

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RodInNS

11-13-2007 18:49:06

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

Dunno why that happened. I spose something wasn't assembled correctly or to tolerance...
I'd want to find out what was done exactly, and then start measuring and go from there. Replace what needs replacing.
Also be careful about ordering a new block. Get accurate information on what you have and the head bolt size. I think you'll find that there were different blocks over differing time periods and not everything will interchange.... and you may find that there is only one particular block available.
You may be fine, but CHECK anyway. Also check the pistons. Some were headland pistons and some were not. I don't think it matters a lot which you use; just keep a set together.

Rod

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RodInNS

11-13-2007 18:49:04

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

Rod

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appalachiaal

11-13-2007 18:07:54

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to atx_sg, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

I planned on getting another block, wasn't sure if I could use the two good psitons and rods that were from the recent overhaul or if I should just do it all over, don't want to have to do this again any time soon. Won't be able to tear it apart until this weekend to see what happened.

Thanks for the ideas on why.

Thanks

Allen

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GlenIdaho

11-13-2007 18:30:48

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 18:07:54

Allen; sorry to hear about you engine. You might check the rod bolts. I rebuilt my 850 and had some work done at a machine shop. They said they checked the rod bolts etc. When I put it together I found I couldn't get a good torque on one. Discovered it was separating at the head. Checked them all and found a second one. Ended up replacing all of them at $8.00 each. Well worth the peace of mind knowing they are good and don't have to worry about what happened to you. You might ask whoever did the rebuild if they replaced them. Just some food for thought.

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awhtx

11-13-2007 18:18:58

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 18:07:54

If the other 2 pistons and rods check out good then by all means use them. You will want to weigh all 3 rods and pistons and make sure that the weights are close to the same so that you don't have a balance problem. I would go ahead and put new rings on all 3 pistons.

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awhtx

11-13-2007 18:01:47

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Re: Ford 4000 blown engine in reply to appalachiaal, 11-13-2007 17:49:43

If you are going to rebuild it you're going to need a replacement block. Block replacement implies a complete overhaul. Or did you plan on re-using your block with a hole in it? Probable cause of failure- who knows but since it was recently overhauled you can assume something was re-assembled incorrectly. Maybe the rod bearing didn't have proper clearance on the big end or the wrist pin didn't have proper clearance on the little end.

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