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NWMO 901 SOS

11-20-2007 04:47:18

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Hey all,

This seems like a little better deal to me. But those who prefer diesel might still find it a little steep. I plan on removing the ballast from my tires one of these days and going with the pie weights. Thats what I was actually searching for. It would be one thing to get some extra weights with the tractor you want, but to get an extra tractor with a pie weight purchase may be a little over the top third party image

. I understand a full set of pie weights (heavy) can go for $400 or more? What is the weight difference between the heavy set and the lighter set, besides the obvious? Whats the easiest way to tell the difference for a novice?

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NWMO 901 SOS

11-20-2007 09:55:11

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

Thanks Jim

Chris

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Dean

11-20-2007 09:57:40

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

Chris:

I"ve purchased tractors for pie weights before and find it the most cost effective way to buy them.

A couple of thoughts:

The heavy weights (nearly 1200 lbs. total) will work on 28" six loop rims but not power adjust rims. These are not recommended by Ford for anything smaller than the 8xx series. They are also the easiest to find. Chinese made repops of these are also available.

The light 28" weights will work with power adjust rims as well as six loop rims. These weigh about 850 lbs. total and were recommended for the 6xx series tractors. These are a bit less common and more difficult to find than the heavy 28" weights.

The thick heavy sets made originally for 24" rims are the most difficult to find. These will fit any rims commonly used on 50s vintage fords.

Both light 70 lbs./wheel and heavy 90+ lbs. wheel front sets are also around. The heavies are available in Chinese made repops. I have one extra pair of each of these if anyone is interested.

Dean

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JK-NY

11-20-2007 17:32:12

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Re: better deal? in reply to Dean, 11-20-2007 09:57:40

The 45# pie weights work on the Ford OEM style power adjust rims. I have a set on my 960.

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Dean

11-20-2007 17:41:07

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Re: better deal? in reply to JK-NY, 11-20-2007 17:32:12

JK:

None of the three sets of unmodified OEM Ford 45 lb pie weights that I have will fit on either my 961 with OEM power adjust rims or my 64 4000, also with OEM power adjust rims. I have light sets on both.

The 45 lb. "thick" weights made for 24" rims will fit on power adjust rims.

Dean

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Jim.UT

11-20-2007 09:34:56

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

From a 600/800 owners manual:

Rear weights:
Regular duty:
Two mounting disks - 68 lbs
24 segments (30 lbs each)
Bolts - 12 lbs
Total - 800 lbs

Heavy duty:
Two mounting disks - 68 lbs
24 segments (45 lbs each)
Bolts - 12 lbs
Total - 1160 lbs

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awhtx

11-20-2007 07:23:53

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

The 701 loader is power up only. The 703 is the same loader with power up and down. Both 701 and 703 have hydraulic dump. In the photo you can see the brackets on the frame where the cylinders for the dump mount. Also, it looks like the bucket on that loader is off a 711 one-arm bandit because it fits in between the main arms of the loader and it has the tines with the plate bolted underneath. The bucket for a 701/703 is wider than the main arms.

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NWMO 901 SOS

11-20-2007 06:56:57

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

Thanks Rick

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RICKWI

11-20-2007 06:48:25

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

The small ones are 30 pounds, the 40 pounders are bigger. There are actually more diferences (tall/skinny, short/fat) as some will fit the 24" rim as well as the power adjust, and two sizes fit the 28". I sold a heavy fat 24"set for $850 once. Made it easy to justify the $1000 parts tractor. There also different weights of the mounting disc.

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john_bud

11-20-2007 06:34:42

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

Asking us to dissuade you from buying a tractor is like asking a drunk to keep you from drinking!

The trip bucket loader is not very valuable. As I recall, it's just power up. To make it useful, you would need 3-4 cylinders, a new control valve and some welding. Still the dual clutch 5 speed is nice....

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john in la

11-20-2007 06:17:34

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

Trying to explain to my wife why I need a $4000 tractor just so I can get a set of $400 weights is the hard part. It really gets complicated when she comes home with some new female decoration for the house and I think (know) it was a waste of money because it will only become some new dust collector.

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Brian in MA

11-20-2007 06:31:07

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Re: better deal? in reply to john in la, 11-20-2007 06:17:34

I have a deal with my wife, she doesn't give me a hard time about my tractors and I don't complain about her horses. Then I work my tractors to feed her horses, and donkeys and goats...at $3.50 for diesel, I'm not sure which are cheaper to feed!

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Brian in MA

11-20-2007 05:26:26

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Re: better deal? in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 11-20-2007 04:47:18

I recently purchased a '68 4000 diesel for the rear rims, so buying one for the weights seems fine to me.

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KC John

11-20-2007 16:51:15

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Re: better deal? in reply to Brian in MA, 11-20-2007 05:26:26

Brian,

Are you parting out the 4000?

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Brian in MA

11-21-2007 04:15:09

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Re: better deal? in reply to KC John, 11-20-2007 16:51:15

I don't think so. It runs like a top & has a great FEL on it. Tractor is all in great shape, just has a bad tranny. I'm in the process of trying to find the rear half of a donor 8 speed tractor to replace the SOS & rear end to make a chore tractor for myself. My 4600 had 24" rear wheels and that didn't give me the ground clearance I needed for hay work, so I bought this 4000 with 30's and swapped. Basically, I can fix this one for far less than I can replace it and I own this one for essentially nothing since I used the rear wheels on another tractor. It's really a disease, I can't seem to stop buying them, but I never want to sell them!

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Matt L

11-24-2007 13:14:20

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Re: better deal? in reply to Brian in MA, 11-21-2007 04:15:09

It starts with one tractor, then next thing ya know ya have 13 and continue to look for more..... ....

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