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4000 select-o-speed bands

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Davey P

12-13-2001 03:47:41




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Our 1972 4000 has done 751 hours from new and with summer here (in Australia) and the slasher out I thought I would service the SOS for the first time. I have only ever changed the oil in it over the years. (Mobil 424).
I have a new filter etc. but thought I should do the bands as well this time. Our dealer is ordering a manual but in the meantime does anyone know how to do the bands.There are three, one under the filter and two down low near the suction screen. I am told it is a simple operation. The manual might take a month or more and I think I should do it now.

I was 21 when the tractor was delivered and am now 50 and still driving it. The SOS has never given a moments trouble and I would like to keep it that way.

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ZANE

12-15-2001 11:34:40




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 Re: 4000 select-o-speed bands in reply to Davey P, 12-13-2001 03:47:41  
I was a factory trained SOS mechanic.

I was taught to adust the banks by the book.

That way is nonsense!

Here is the procedure I came up with myself after a few hours of trying to hold the threaded rod while the selflocking nut was turned and the screwdriver slot on the threaded rod got worse and worse.

This is the easy way.


The Pto is notorious for not disengaging except when there is a load on the pto. Usually then it will work OK.

Be sure to disengage the coupling between the transmission and the differential to prevent possible injury.

The bands are easy to adjust but the hydraulics of the trans. must be working in order to do it. If you will put the transmission in the gear a particular band is supposed to be engaged you will be able to release the lock nut without the adjusting screw moving. If on the other hand the adjusting screw moves with no resistance when you have it in the gear that is supposed to have that band applied you can assume you have hydraulic problems with what ever is supposed to be applying the band.
After you have turned the lock nuts back on each band then you can turn the adjusting screw in till you feel the engine begin to load because you will be doing the same as trying to put the transmission in more than one gear by removing the clearance in the band that is supposed to be disengaged at the time. Then you need to turn the adjusting screw out 3/4 turn. Put it back in the gear that puts tension on the adjusting screw and tighten the locking nut. The reason you do it this way is because it is almost impossible to hole the screw while tightening the lock nut when the band is disengaged. Do this procedure on all three bands except that the front #1 band should be backed off only 1/2 turn because it is the smallest diameter of the 3 bands.

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Tony Jacobs

12-13-2001 19:55:58




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 Re: 4000 select-o-speed bands in reply to Davey P, 12-13-2001 03:47:41  
Hi Davey P. , If that was my tractor and I bought it new and it had ony 751 hours on it , I would change the oil and filter and leave the bands alone until your manual arrives . I have 6 S.O.S. Tractors and when they were serviced by me for the first time since I bought them some have not been touched for years and were fine . I have also done alot of S.O.S. work so it is no problem to do them also . A couple more hours will not hurt it anyway , you are better off reading the manual to get a little better understanding of the job ahead of you and how the transmission works too. Thanks Tony Jacobs

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Barry

03-03-2003 05:51:30




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 Re: Re: 4000 select-o-speed bands in reply to Tony Jacobs , 12-13-2001 19:55:58  
I was looking at a 4110 ford and the reverse is slow and sometimes have to push pedal a couple of times to get it in rev. any ideas on what prob is ? all forward gears are good. tnx



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JDP

12-13-2001 04:38:41




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 Re: 4000 select-o-speed bands in reply to Davey P, 12-13-2001 03:47:41  
Buy the I&T shop manual for it too. It will tell you how to adjust the bands and you can have it a lot quicker than a month or two. I always like to have at least two different printers of shop manuals for the same tractor myself. Sometimes one will cover what the other one doesn't.



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