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bob mann

01-08-2008 16:07:22




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I have a ford 650, I have about 100 holes to dig. i need advice on the dos&dont's for a digger to buy,how about the one from TCS? Thanks




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RICKWI

01-09-2008 16:16:24




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
Waayyy back when I was a kid, my dad built a phd out of a hayrake frame, a Model A ford differential, a chunk of auger out of a NH baler with Massey plow shares welded on for cutting tips, and some other junk iron. It sold at the auction in '96 for a couplabucks and I saw it a coupla years ago at an implement boneyard leaning against a tree with a $75 price tag on it. I still remember my first use when I screwed the little 8N right to the ground. Just let it run at the bottom of the hole till it loosend up enough me and the 3Pt could get it out.

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hay

01-10-2008 12:56:18




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to RICKWI, 01-09-2008 16:16:24  
BTDT on an IH2444 when drilling holes for sign crew for the state highway dept. screwed that little tractor right down in no time, but took forever to get the auger back out after much hand digging and prying. gotta watch them augers and go slow.



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Bob Mann

01-10-2008 11:43:32




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to RICKWI, 01-09-2008 16:16:24  
Thanks guys sounds like a lot of experiance. Everything was very helpful Thanks again Bob M



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kyhayman

01-09-2008 10:10:53




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
For 100 holes, how about renting a skid loader with a digger on it. Here that combo rents for 265 per day or 300 with a rock drilling auger. I've got an old danhauser. It does a great job but I havent used it in years, just rent the rock attachment for 135 a day to go on my skid steer.



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wayner

01-09-2008 09:32:06




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
Keep a large pipe wrench and 3'cheater pipe handy. if it gets stuck turn off tractor disingage pto and use wrench and pipe to reverse screw auger to un stuck. also clean hole alot by lifting auger out as you go. you will quikly figure it out, be safe!!!!!



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soundguy

01-09-2008 08:07:52




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
I agree with the others.. slow idle speed, and ready to stomp the clutch / lift up the hyds.

Live hyds are great for PHD's..

soundguy



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sotxbill

01-09-2008 05:48:09




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
dad has a danuser and i have a cheapie...
the danuser takes 6 grown men and 12 boys to put on the tractor. its weight gives it an advantage digging but its wieght means that its damn near impossible to get on the tractor and get off the tractor.. you can dig a hole and leave the auger in the hole so the danuser is easier to work with but then its frame is still too heavy to hook up easily and safely and the auger blades will rust quicker.. if your a big big man at 275 lbs then maybe this is not an issue..

the cheap auger will do very well if you keep 90 wieght fluid in it or switch it to double ought (00) grease if it leaks a bit.

if you have rock,, then the danuser will be worth every penny.. if youve got dirt, or sand then as said.. why go wrestle with a grizzly bear when you can make love to a beatiful woman and still get home for lunch..

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Brian in MA

01-09-2008 04:32:50




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
Depends on soil conditions. In an easy digging soil, they are absoultely awesome and the cheapest one you can find will probably be fine. If you are in a rocky or hard digging area you will work the implement pretty hard. I have the super cheapo that I picked up for nothing, but bought the $250 12" auger for it. I have drilled dozens, maybe a hundred holes in reasonable soil and it has saved my back. SLOW is definately key, take your time, keep other people away. They are a great implement to have and can save a lot of work. But, like was stated below, I have also gotten it stuck and I had to dig it out by hand and pull it with the FEL to be able to move on when I hit a root.

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larryloy

01-08-2008 18:24:03




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
do not buy a cheap digger ===try and find a good used Ford or Danuser and you will be alot happier==you may have to give 350 to 800 for good used digger but it will still be worth that for many years==cheap digger will get to be worth maybe 150????



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vtrwillie

01-08-2008 16:50:15




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
I have one I used to dig some 12" holes for some concrete piers. Like sox said slow & easy will get the job done. I seem to remember reading somewhere that you are suppose to start with the auger tip tilted away (or is it towards) the tractor? and that the auger will straighten it's self out as it goes down..... ...



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sotxbill

01-08-2008 16:17:59




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 Re: Post hole digging in reply to bob mann, 01-08-2008 16:07:22  
on using a tractor mounted phd..

first off, only have the motor run barely above an idle..

almost in every case, going faster is not gonna dig faster..

stay away from the pto shaft or have pto guards on it or you will loose a hand, foot or worse.

if you snag a root..better to kill the engine that have to spend two weeks digging out the auger..

if dry,, start the hole, and move on.. you can put water in each of the starter holes then come back tommorrow and dig 6 more inches , put in more water and keep on till you get past the dry crust..

keep an operator on the tractor, gradually lower the auger as it digs, be prepare to cut it off quickly at the first sign of trouble or snagging something...

keep all children away and dig only on level ground with the brakes set.

and never run the auger much faster than a bit above an idle... a phd is one of the few items that you do NOT want to run fast or at 540 rpm unless your very brave and have lots of insurance and have a few extra kids to get rid of...

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