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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 17:41:48

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Can anyone out there help me identify what year this tractor is? I believe its an 800,that is on the left side just fwd of the rear axel, and it is a diesel 4 cylinder, and has 4 fwd and 1 reverse gears,I thought that my grandfather said it was a 56' but I was just a kid and dont rmember for sure, I am getting ready to do some work on it and want to get the right parts and try be as true to its origins as posible.

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RodInNS

03-09-2008 20:02:07

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

The blue chassis and air cleaner would suggest to me that it's an 'early' 4000 built between 62 and 64. In addition, and for whatever reason, someone has installed the tinwork from an 800 series. The tin and grill look like an 800 series to me anyway...

Rod

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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 20:30:06

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

anouter one

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awhtx

03-08-2008 20:28:45

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

I have a 1958 861D and the model and serial numbers are completely eaten away by battery acid. The casting dates on the engine, trans and rear axle trumpets are all 1958. Your tractor will be an 841D (4 speed trans). I believe the air cleaner on your tractor was not introduced until the early 60's. The original air cleaner for the diesels was located underneath the intake manifold and the air intake was located inside the louvered panel on the aft end of the left hood side panel.
It looks like you have the "cyclops" hood with the large round emblem above the radiator. This would be an 801 series. If you don't have the cyclops emblem you have an early 4000 which was basically the same as the 801. However, it appears your hood does not match the rest of the tractor so the date codes cast into your block, trans and axle are your best bet at determining year model.

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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 20:38:37

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to awhtx, 03-08-2008 20:28:45

thanks for the info,been trying to upload a couple more pictures but this computer is kicking my but

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Abnormal

03-08-2008 19:39:20

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

Scrub down the flat spot just behind the starter. I have an 841D & it took a lot of wire brushing to make the sn viewable.

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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 19:49:32

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Abnormal, 03-08-2008 19:39:20

will do when i get back in, thanks for the help

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john in la

03-08-2008 18:52:59

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

It is very common for battery acid to eat the model and serial # away on diesel engine tractors of this age. Look at the photo for referance and tell us what #'s your tractor has and we may be able to narrow down the year.

It is not a 800 for sure. They did not have diesel engines. It is a 601; 801; 2000; 4000. More likely a 2000 or a 4000 by looking at that air cleaner.

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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 19:47:05

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to john in la, 03-08-2008 18:52:59

unfortunatly I'm offshore right now and cant get a look at the tractor right now, but this gives me some direction to look in when I get back asshore,thanks

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john in la

03-08-2008 18:54:10

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to john in la, 03-08-2008 18:52:59

Sorry..... ... Forgot to include the picture.

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Brian Bell

03-08-2008 18:30:05

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

It could be anywhere from 57-65. The 4 cylinder diesels started in 1957 with the 6x1 and 8x1 and also the early 2000 and 4000 series and made it until the 3 cylinder diesels came out in the 2000 and 4000 series in 1965. With as much blue at there is on it, I would suspect an early thousand series...but it could be a repaint. Check out John Smith"s site for the way to decrypt casting numbers to help determin the year built.

Hope this helps some...

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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 19:42:44

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Brian Bell, 03-08-2008 18:30:05

thanks for the help, do you have a web address for John Smiths sight?I sure would apprediate it.

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awhtx

03-08-2008 21:20:48

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Here's John Smith's Ford ID web page in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 19:42:44

click the link

JS Ford ID

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Thomas Morrison

03-08-2008 18:01:57

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

the spot where that should be looks like batery acid or a lot of rust got it, and of course thats the only place on the tractor like that

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mechanic fred

03-08-2008 17:56:21

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Re: Ford 800? Diesel Year??? in reply to Thomas Morrison, 03-08-2008 17:41:48

Look on the flywheel housing just to the rear of the starter, clean off the dirt and the serial number and model number should be there.

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