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Parts needed for 671 rear split

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Robert Campy

03-20-2008 07:31:40




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I have a 671 and I want to replace the hydralic and rear end assembly with one from a 871. I believe this is a easy swap but I would like to know what gaskets and seals I should have on hand before I start. How difficult is the PTO seal betwwen the 3 point system and the rear end to change when I have the tractor split.

Thanks for your time.




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Robert Campy

03-21-2008 20:19:56




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-20-2008 07:31:40  
John

I am in Washington state near Tacoma.

Bob



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john_bud

03-22-2008 18:45:13




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-21-2008 20:19:56  
Bob,

I'm in Wisconsin, but will be traveling to the Sea-Tac area this summer.

If you want to get rid of that clunker SOS, my email is open (just click on the send email deal)

jb



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Robert Campy

03-21-2008 06:30:35




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-20-2008 07:31:40  
John

Thanks for the reply, I need to go to NH about 50 miles away and I wanted to make sure I do not forget something.

Wayne

I have a 871D with a slipping SOS, I want to change out the engine at a latter date but I need a tractor going the projects are falling behind.

Thanks again

Bob



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john_bud

03-21-2008 09:48:37




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-21-2008 06:30:35  
Bob,

Where are you located? If you're going to ditch the SOS and you're close -> I would love to snag it for a tractor that needs some love.

jb



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Wayne IA

03-20-2008 14:18:49




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-20-2008 07:31:40  
Can I be thee only one wandering? Why are you replacing the differential housing from a 671 and replacing I with one from a 871?



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john_bud

03-20-2008 14:09:12




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-20-2008 07:31:40  
[Quote ]John

Does the PTO shaft have to be removed to do a rear split? That is why I questioned about replacing the internal seal. Does the 671 and 871 hydraulic pump manifolds interchange? Does the manifold have O rings like the NAA or are they gaskets? Is there a kit available that has the gaskets and O rings for a rear split?

Thanks again

Bob [Quote]

Doing a "rear split" means the engine and transmission stay attached and the differential housing to transmission are broken apart.

The entire PTO shaft assembly is completely inside the differential housing. The coupler between the transmission and PTO is the only thing you will have to diddle with.

The lift cover is on the top of the differential housing. So, if you are swapping differential housings complete with lift cover and including the PTO assembly there is no reason to mess with either of them.

Between the transmission and differential housing there are 3 things. 1 is a large gasket that costs a couple bucks. The other 2 are O-rings that go around the hydraulic fluid transfer tubes at the bottom right corner of the assemblies. Those are like a buck each, tops. Since you have to get the gasket at your local Ford NH dealer, may as well get the o-rings there too. You may want to get a round PTO access cover gasket in case you need to reach in there and help align the PTO shaft to coupler. Couple bucks also at FNH dealer.

The hydraulic pump and manifold don't have to be touched to do a rear split as they are on the engine and front of the transmission.


Rear splits are fast and easy. Just block up the back of the transmission and wedge the engine so it can't flop. Put a rolling jack under the differential housing, unbolt and roll the back away. Roll the new back end (with the new gasket on it) up to the transmission. Put on 2 new o-rings and mate them up. Add bolts, hydraulic fluid and your done. Hard part is aligning the housings and the 2 couplers for wheel power and PTO. Accessing thru the round cover on the side of the differential housing helps a bunch. Also, if you suspend the new differential housing off the ground with an engine hoist that makes life easy. Otherwise the pinion will be rotating as you move them together and that can make alignment "fun". Just go slow, be cautious and never force anything. When the stars align, the parts will slide together slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Just make sure the couplers can slide onto the shafts of the new back end BEFORE you attempt to align....

jb

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Robert Campy

03-20-2008 09:40:12




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-20-2008 07:31:40  
John

Does the PTO shaft have to be removed to do a rear split? That is why I questioned about replacing the internal seal. Does the 671 and 871 hydralic pump manifolds interchange? Does the manifold have O rings like the NAA or are they gaskets? Is there a kit available that has the gaskets and O rings for a rear split?

Thanks again
Bob



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john_bud

03-20-2008 08:20:05




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to Robert Campy, 03-20-2008 07:31:40  
The only thing you need will be the gasket. Just drain the fluid out of the hyd res and take off the bolts - with proper support!

The pto seal is part of the pto assembly and you can change that by taking out the pto shaft from the rear of the tractor - no split needed.

Just make sure that the o-rings between the trans and diff are in place and good or the hydraulics will leak.

jb



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soundguy

03-20-2008 11:24:48




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 Re: Parts needed for 671 rear split in reply to john_bud, 03-20-2008 08:20:05  
I think he was refering to the center section where the pto passes thru to mixed sumps.. etc... not the pto shaft seal near the end of the stub, outboard of the bearing.. etc.

soundguy



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