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Select-o-speed-o-matic ?

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Amatt NWOH

05-06-2008 08:17:27




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Why do so many people refer to the select-o-speeds as select-o-matic? Was it ever marketed as such? I noticed in Randy Leffingwell's "Ford Farm Tractors" book that he refers to the "gold select-o-matic tractors". Was it called select-o-matic across the pond but select-o-speed in North America?




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Larry NCKS

05-07-2008 03:54:38




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to john in la, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
you got a pic of the throttle lever. Shift lever is on right side.



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ray sprague

05-06-2008 17:13:53




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Amatt NWOH, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
i have a 4000 select o speed and it does't jerk endless you shift with the rpms to high and if you drive it with commonsense if i want to get on it fast i just pat the inching pedal when shifting i havent got a complant but then again maybe its because i dont use it for working its just for taking to shows and driven around the farm and down the road some times just to keep eveything working.



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MarkB_MI

05-06-2008 16:52:31




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Amatt NWOH, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
I get routinely busted by the SOS police for calling them "Select-O-Shift" transmissions. Whatever. I grew up driving various Ford cars with "Ford-o-Matic" and "Cruise-o-matic" transmissions. For a while there, Ford thought every name had to have an "O" in the middle. I thought it was dopey at the time, but compared with the crappy names Ford puts on their cars these days, I guess it wasn't that bad.

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Billy NY

05-06-2008 10:35:36




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Amatt NWOH, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
As far as the name, it does get called a lot of things besides Select-O-Speed, and the S-O-S Police are right on em, as seen here at YT ;).

We owned a ford tractor dealership late 60's-70's, and never recalled how many were a real problem, nor how many were sold vs the 8 spd with the thousand series, both were available. I can remember just a few in the shop, first 6000 I ever saw had one, thought it had 2 S-O-S shift levers, too young to remember all the details and the mechanics we had, 3 brothers have long since passed on, they were some great guys, did not matter what you brought into that shop, our old D7, trucks, tractors, they built the last tilt bed we owned, this was all good stuff as a kid, could not get enough of the place.

Near the parts room and show room there were some exploded view posters hanging up, along with some other wall hangers I wish I still had, always like the one with the thousand series cutting hay. I can remember the giant parts books on the counter, and some diagrams on S-0-S's, looked way too complicated for a kid to understand.

NYS thruway Authority had S-0-S's early 62-64 4000's for mowing along the highway, we owned a 64 4000 that was bought from a thruway authority auction, had it for many years, so you know it had some hours on it, was the first tractor I ever really operated. I can remember the jerky'ness of it, but it's been almost 30's years since I've been on one to comment on that, seemed certain gears would toss you more. We used this tractor for everything, lot of brushogging, but also mowing, raking and baling hay, snow plowing with a front blade, manure spreader, small tillage jobs, really not bad for a 45 hp gas powered utility tractor, it did everything. I was never sure why my father never grabbed one of those blue thousand series, we would occasionally use ones on the lot that were not new, like the 4000, 5000 and 8000, did not have acreage like the dairy farmers but 112 or so at that time, mostly hay in what was fields, the rest woods. The first one he had here was a wide front 2010 with a loader, figured once you have a loader, you'd not be without one, though none of the tractors on the lot had loaders, only backhoes had em.

The 64 4000 with 1 set of remotes, power steering, independent pto and S-O-S trans., worked year after year without any trans problems, and it was darned fast in 10th going down the road, thinking back driving that thing down the road or being on the fender, checking the front end comes to mind now, thinking how fast it went. We baled with a 532 ford baler, it handled the job for a few thousand bales every year, and I did quite a bit of mowing with an old ford rotary cutter with it. Thinking of the use it got, the Select-O-Speed was respectable, even more so if you did the adjustments and maintenance, having some knowledge on them to do so, either ours was in top shape when we got it or who knows, I never saw much maintenance or repairs to it in those years.

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Fordfarmer

05-06-2008 13:11:16




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Billy NY, 05-06-2008 10:35:36  
first 6000 I ever saw had one, thought it had 2 S-O-S shift levers,


Nope- 1 SOS shift lever... other one is the throttle... and ALL 6000's had the SOS.



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Billy NY

05-06-2008 13:22:22




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Fordfarmer, 05-06-2008 13:11:16  
Those levers were identical, and side by side correct ? Got a pretty good memoory, but that was a long time ago, it was in for service or repairs as I recall.

I knew that lever from seeing others, but they only had one, like the 4000 S-0-S. I don't think I've been up close to a 6000 since, that was early 70's, was an odd looking tractor, that one and the round nose case 311 the farmer had down the road, never saw another of either except on this site.

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Fordfarmer

05-06-2008 15:30:07




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Billy NY, 05-06-2008 13:22:22  
third party image

They were identical, or close to it, but one on the left side of the dash, one on the right. 5000 row crops with the SOS also had 2 nearly identical levers, one for the SOS, one for the throttle, but they go into the face of the dash; 6000's go into the side. Pic is a little far away to see it real clearly, but you can see one of the levers in this photo... but I can't tell you if it's the SOS or throttle. A few 6000 pics in the tractor photo gallery show the other side, but again, not real close/clear.

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RodInNS

05-06-2008 09:03:16




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Amatt NWOH, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
I don't know if it's a mixup of Select-O-Speed and jerkamatic, or if people simply confuse it with David Brown's Selectamatic transmission, but it's almost always confused by people who are new to posting on this forum... The Selectamatic was nothing to rave about either, so i'm sure both were roundly cursed in many circles.
Jerk-A-Matic is my prefered nomenclature for the S-O-S because it so aptly describes how it shifts. Personally I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would favor that transmission over the 8x2 crashbox. I can see it as an improvement over the old 4 and 5 speeds for the fact that it has a lot more ratios, but as far as I'm concerned, the 8 speed was, and REMAINS a far superior transmission. The fact that they continue to build that transmission TODAY, 45 years after it's drawings were made ought to say something about it's design.

Rod

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Bobrh

05-06-2008 08:42:45




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Amatt NWOH, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
Select O Speed was always correct. The other color tractor owners,disgruntled SOS owners,and manual transmission die hards usually referred to it as "Jerk O Matic". I heard that term many times growing up in Iowa. My folks purchased one of the first 59 671's (not a Gold)and it performed dependably for over 25 years when my brother traded it off and we lost track of it. I now have 5 running SOS tractors and they are great.

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Scott in SD

06-18-2008 13:27:07




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Bobrh, 05-06-2008 08:42:45  
Bobrh,

I've got a 671 and I love it too. The only problem I've had is now twice in the last couple of years the Select-O-Speed cable has broken. I was able to find a used one last time. I'm looking for another used one and other misc. parts for the shifter.

Just wondering...do you have any parts or know where I can find some?

Scott



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Gaspump

05-06-2008 08:28:25




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 Re: Select-o-speed-o-matic ? in reply to Amatt NWOH, 05-06-2008 08:17:27  
No, it is Select-O-Speed everywhere. Select-O-Matic sort of goes along with the quality of the publications out there, especially those by MBI. Secondly, it is by no means an automatic transmission!



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