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NWMO 901 SOS

05-20-2008 14:34:05




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Hey bandit lovers,

I noticed my boss has an old one-arm loader built by Ford. It has a trip bucket. I assume that makes it a 711. When I see him tomorrow I am going to ask about the brackets as I don't see them around. I know when he was growing up they used an SOS tractor, don't know if the bandit was on it or not. I assume these go on the NF tractors pretty well (with brackets). I've got an old Freeman loader that requires a homemade frame be bolted to my 971, and while it makes it easier for someone to jump on and ride, it's not pretty. Though nothing on my old tractor is pretty right now anyhow. I may be interested in the patterns for the brackets on down the road, who knows. I kind of like the looks of them myself and I have to rebuild the cylinders on my old one, new hoses etc, to make it work. Mine would be very similar to your new trike wouldn't it Soundguy. Seems you had a one arm bandit for it.

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NWMO 901 SOS

05-22-2008 08:42:44




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  
Thanks Soundguy,

I had looked at your photos yesterday and seen the brackets. I am going to continue gently pushing my boss to see if the brackets can be found, havn't even looked for them yet. They may be in the tall grass around the loader itself. If I find the hip bracket, I will likely try and get it as my boss isn't interested in the loader and likes to help his empoyees out when he can. I'll post when I get more info. and let you all know what I find. Thanks again.

Chris

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NWMO 901 SOS

05-21-2008 10:56:50




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to asylum, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  
Thanks John

Chris



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NWMO 901 SOS

05-21-2008 06:24:58




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  
Hey Soundguy,

Scott says he is sure he has the brackets somewhere, but it was on an old 871 when he had it. Would any of the brackets for an 871 be beneficial for my 971?
I guess even with different brackets, if he had them they would be good for trading for the correct brackets at some point if a person was patient.

It's not going anywhere, so theres no rush, I'll probably see if we can find the brackets before doing much else.

Chris

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souNdguy

05-22-2008 06:21:46




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-21-2008 06:24:58  
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John O gave you great advice.

The most important bracket is the 'hip' bracket.. it is the one with complex curves on it to (normally) clear the steering arm.. it's absolutely essentialfor the 4-wheel tractors especially.

The lower bracket can be used, and if missing, torched out of 3/8 plate.

As john O mentions.. the front bracket ont he 4-wheel jobs is merely a piece of 1/2" plate with some bolt holes punched in it, and a 'toe' hole.

The 7xx/9xx use a totally different toe hole bracket.. however.. you are in luck. that front 9XX bracket i believe is also torchable out of 1/2 plate. Will need a square piece with 4 bolt holes, a tear drop shaped piece with a notch cut lat into one side to weld onto the square plate, and then 2 small gussets, one on each side of the tear drop that is perpindicularly welded to the square plate.

The HIP bracket, if you can find it will be the make or brake .. If he has the hip.. you can torch the front follwoing my directions and a bit of measuring.. now here's the kicker.

that hip bracket is very important tot he 4-wheel tractors as it is bent and formed in a way to clear the left side steering arm. Since the 9xx and 7xx don't have an arm there, i don't see why you couldn't take a 4" x 12" piece of 1/2" plate, cut the bottom down to a bit of a contour, like an upside down tear drop, and then punch the 3 bolt holes in it for the trans bellhousing, and then weld on a piece of round stock in place of the nub that is normall on the hip bracket that engages the box on the sid eof the loader frame... drill the nub/round stock for a long anchor bolt.. say.. 3/8 be fine.. I use long 8" 'j' bolt anchors for this.

So yeah.. if you can get the laoder, and it has the hip bracket, you can torch the rest .. the front will be a lil bit of fabrication.. but not bad. If you had to make the hip bracket.. it would be a wee bit hard.. but not impossible. Enough of us have these that we cound provide measurements.

Look at my attached pic. near the front you see the special 'toe' bracket. since it is not complex.. it CAN be fabricated with torch and welder.. near the back you see my 3/4" ratched hanging down.. it is on 1-of the bolts onthe hip bracket.. see the nub near the air cleaner tube?

if you are serious about joing the 1-arm club.. we can help.

soundguy

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John O (MI)

05-21-2008 08:50:44




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-21-2008 06:24:58  
Having 801 brackets will get you the hip bracket that is hard to fabricate and the bottom bracket. But unfortunately, the front "toe" bracket on the 900's is more complicated that than the 800's (which use flat plates). Take a look at the pictures that Soundguy has posted of his 951.

Good luck,

-John



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NWMO 901 SOS

05-21-2008 05:04:50




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to Robert Haessly, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  

SuperSnake said: (quoted from post at 03:41:34 05/21/08) I have limited knowledge of the one arm loader, having used one as a teen working for a neighbor loading manure out of a old barn that hadn't been cleaned for many years. And the best thing about using it was the visibilty that you had working in tight places.
Anyway enough memories, I am writing you cause
I know where there is a loader for sale I haven't looked at it up close so I don't know the model#. If you are interested I could get more info for you, it is located in Saline Mi so if that is to far away, you may not be interested at all.


Thanks ss,

I'm not looking, just happended on this one. I kind of like the looks of the one-arm loaders.

Chris

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SuperSnake

05-21-2008 01:41:34




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  
I have limited knowledge of the one arm loader, having used one as a teen working for a neighbor loading manure out of a old barn that hadn't been cleaned for many years. And the best thing about using it was the visibilty that you had working in tight places. Anyway enough memories, I am writing you cause I know where there is a loader for sale I haven't looked at it up close so I don't know the model#. If you are interested I could get more info for you, it is located in Saline Mi so if that is to far away, you may not be interested at all.

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NWMO 901 SOS

05-20-2008 20:15:35




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to Bendee, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  

awhtx said: (quoted from post at 16:54:20 05/20/08) Chris,
The difference between a 711 and a 722 one-arm loader is whether or not the frame is used as a hydraulic sump for a front pump. The 711 does not have the sump and must be plumbed into the tractor hydraulics. The 722 has the sump and can be used either with a front pump or plumbed into the tractor.

The 711 can have either a hyd or trip dump bucket. I would think the 722 would most likely have the hyd dump but I've never seen one to be sure.
Alan


Thanks for educating me Alan, I appreciate the help.
Chris

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souNdguy

05-20-2008 20:40:36




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-20-2008 20:15:35  
AWHTX gave you good info.

You can torch out the lower under trans bracket from 3/8 plate. An enterprising individual could even torch out the front bracket for the narrow front tractors using 1/2" plate.

the trans 'hip' bracket is the real deal maker / breaker... it has complex curves in it.. and while a pile of moneyy a blacksmith and a machinist on retainer could likely yeild a working piece.. it's better to have one in hand than try to make. Same with the wide front brackets... the front and bottom are torchable if push comes to shove.. but that hip bracket is the one you will need.

If he has the laoder.. he 'had' the brackets if it was ever mounted...

and yes.. the 1-arms can fit the narrow fronts just fine.. ford made the brackets for them. your dual wheel narrow front arguable would be better than my single wheel narrow front.

since mine was a trip bucket model, I just ran a hose from a 90' fitting in place of the pipe plug on the test cover to the loader lift cyl, and then chained my upper lift arms tot he axle trumpets... raising the 3pt handle makes my loader go up.. Not as neat as my dual spool valves on my 660 and 850.. also didn't cost me 700$ for the plumbing either!

good luck.

soundguy

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awhtx

05-20-2008 14:54:20




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 Re: one arm bandit in reply to NWMO 901 SOS, 05-20-2008 14:34:05  
Chris,

The difference between a 711 and a 722 one-arm loader is whether or not the frame is used as a hydraulic sump for a front pump. The 711 does not have the sump and must be plumbed into the tractor hydraulics. The 722 has the sump and can be used either with a front pump or plumbed into the tractor.
The 711 can have either a hyd or trip dump bucket. I would think the 722 would most likely have the hyd dump but I've never seen one to be sure.

Alan

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