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farmallwayne

12-04-2006 16:48:49




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Hello,

I still got this leroi aircompressor with a ford (fordson) industrial 220 motor in it. Can any one tell me what goes in the rubber grommet infront of the valve cover. It is leaking oil out of it onto the upper raditor hose. It looks like a pvc valve should go there.

You can just see the oil covered grommet in the picture there at the hose clamp.

any help would be great

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myassitis

12-06-2006 06:50:43




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to farmallwayne, 12-04-2006 16:48:49  
MATT IN PA
Matt, I HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AS THE ONE SHOWN IN MORNINGWOODS PICTURE WITH THE EXACT SAME ENJECTOR PUMP. YOU MENTIONED THE "COLD START BUTTON". I'VE HEARD THIS MENTIONED BEFORE. WHERE IS IT ON THE PICTURE? I HAVE A STOP LEVER WHICH WHEN PULLED FROM THE DASH SHUTS OFF FUEL, BUT A COLD START BUTTON?

MYASSITIS



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matt in pa

12-06-2006 07:41:23




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to myassitis, 12-06-2006 06:50:43  
myassitis,
Look at the picture of morningwood's engine below. Where the stop cable attached to the pump, you will notice a little button that acts as the pivot between the stop cable arm and the pump body. It will be easier to see on your motor. That is the cold start. Push that in, set your throttle to about 1/3, and try to start. If I understand correctly, pushing in the button sends a heck of a lot more fuel into the combustion chamber. Once the tractor starts the button should pop back out. My tractor has been stored inside for years, and the button works perfectly. I have heard of the buttons being stuck in on some tractors though, and I think you have to GENTLY pull them back out with pliers once the tractor is running. If you search this site you will find more information about it.

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morningwood

12-07-2006 08:10:45




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to matt in pa, 12-06-2006 07:41:23  
Here is a better picture of a Simms Injection Pump that was used in almost all fordsons up until April 1962 engine #08B756398. The button or rack that matt is referring to is where the stop cable is screwed into.

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I had to get my pump rebuilt a few years ago and they rebuilt it the opposite way for some reason. I pull the the rack out and it then works its way back in towards the pump. The injection shop told that it does really matter which way the rack goes as long when the pump is running it is not running at maximum fuel delivery all of the time, aka when rack is pushed in or pulled out.

Scott

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matt in pa

12-07-2006 10:41:27




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to morningwood, 12-07-2006 08:10:45  
Scott,
What is that little box in front of the governor for? Looks like it has a hinged lid on it. My Major (1955) doesn't have one.



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morningwood

12-07-2006 12:53:12




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to matt in pa, 12-07-2006 10:41:27  
Matt,

The picture of the injection pump that I posted is actually a picture I found awhile ago. I needed to show my mechanic that there was a pipe on the injection pump to drain off the excess diesel that is used for lubrication.

Back on topic, from what I could find out about it, is that it was a fordson "add on" hour meter that you could order from the factory. My 1959 FPM has the very expensive angle drive and cable ( I just bought both of these items ) that run too the proof meter. This is probably the same setup that you have with you major.

Scott

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R Wooley

12-04-2006 18:12:02




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to farmallwayne, 12-04-2006 16:48:49  
hole in front of valve cover is where decompresor control arm mounts to rocker arm assembly.

Randy



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morningwood

12-04-2006 18:09:39




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to farmallwayne, 12-04-2006 16:48:49  
Farmall,

Your engine configuration looks a little different ( my water temp gauge goes on the other side ) then mine but I believe you should have a decompession lever that goes through the grommet.

Are you talking about the grommet that is in the valve cover ??

Below is a pic of my FPM engine:

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Thanks,

Scott

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farmallwayne

12-04-2006 19:12:58




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to morningwood, 12-04-2006 18:09:39  
Yes that is what I am talking about. As you can see in my picture there is no lever there. It is long gone.

Now for the stupid question, what is it for easyer starting in winter. and do I need one. I need to do somthing to keep oil from leaking out of the grommet since the lever is not there..

Thanks



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woodache

12-11-2006 22:44:37




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 Comp Release Lever removel Re:Ford industrial 220 in reply to farmallwayne, 12-04-2006 19:12:58  
The lever can be removed by taking out the center bolt the lever may be stuck but a little wiggling till it losens and it will just slide forward off. That hole can be plugged by a variety of means if not removing the valve cover just put a good fitting cork in it. If you want to remove the valve cover use a couple of body washers with a bolt through them to seal the hole.



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matt in pa

12-05-2006 04:14:49




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 Re: Ford industrial 220 engine picture in reply to farmallwayne, 12-04-2006 19:12:58  
farmall,
No, you don't need one, as far as I know. Majorman is the real authority on the subject though.
What you did with the lever was lift if, which eliminated the compression. Then the engine was turned over by hand to get everything loosened up in the cold. Then you lowered the lever again and tried to start it. I have found that the cold starting button on the pump works just fine instead of trying to wheel one of these little diesels over by hand.
The bolt that holds the lever on my FMD likes to work itself loose over time, and I develop a leak very similar to the one you have. The next time I have the valve cover off, I am going to try to find a way to remove the handle and plug that hole too!

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