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Walter Allen

08-06-2007 18:54:36




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Guess What? I got the tractor going and used it for about a day. On my way back to the house going down a valley. I heard a pop, and climbing back up the other side to get to the gate. I pushed down on the clutch and it wouldn"t disengage. I tore down about 30 ft of fence befor it ocured to me to hit the kill switch. whew boy was I scared. Well I rebuilt the fence in 90 degree weather, and went back to the tractor. I was able to get it out of gear and back into 1st gear. Started and limped back to the shop. The clutch seems to work by the pedal, has plenty of spring return. But won"t disengae. What is wrong? Can anyone suggest what the problem is. Looking at the manual I see what is called a fork. Could that have slipped off or something? Walt Allen

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dwol

08-07-2007 07:42:04




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 Re: Clutch in reply to Walter Allen, 08-06-2007 18:54:36  
My guess is that you broke the arm (or shaft) inside the housing which holds the pressure release bearing. It would still have the sping release but would not push the bearing into the pressure plate.



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Walter Allen

08-07-2007 10:35:11




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 Re: Clutch in reply to dwol, 08-07-2007 07:42:04  
I kind of figured that I just needed a confirmation. I was intending on doing an overhall this Winter on it. But I am going to do it now instead. She is burning a little oil and has about 300,000 hours on it and I don"t believe it has ever been toughed. I have been looking at the online manual for all the tools I will need to rebuild the engine and clutch. Any Ideas?



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dwol

08-07-2007 12:30:14




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 Re: Clutch in reply to Walter Allen, 08-07-2007 10:35:11  
What year/model is it? Does it have the dual clutch or single? The dual clutch is a pain.
The engine rebuild is very easy to do with minimal tools. I just finished my 61 super and found it fairly simple. You will need a torque wrench, ring compressor, and prelube for the bearings, but no special tools. The sleaves can be knocked out by turning the engine over and using a hammer and punch. Check Barco for the kit, it includes a crank for next to nothing.
Regards,
Dave

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rml

08-16-2007 22:15:01




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 Re: Clutch in reply to dwol, 08-07-2007 12:30:14  
I have a similar problem to Walt"s. While mowing weeds, was suddenly unable to disengage transmission. Did not hear or feel anything, just wouldn"t disengage. The odd thing is that mine has the double clutch/live PTO and the clutch still disengages the PTO. Any Ideas?



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Walter Allen

08-07-2007 13:38:05




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 Re: Clutch in reply to dwol, 08-07-2007 12:30:14  
It is a 1960 to 61. I don't believe it is a double clutch. It is a model 957E7005. I have tried replacing the sleves in another engine before and I sure wished I had the sleeving tool. Do you know where I could find one? Walt



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dwol

08-07-2007 14:48:08




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 Re: Clutch in reply to Walter Allen, 08-07-2007 13:38:05  
The single clutch should be as easy as replacing one in a car, although I have not done the single myself, so I can't say for sure. When you did the sleaves in the other engine was it a wet sleave or dry? The Major has wet sleaves making it easy to remove and really easy to install. Just put some soapy water on them, and slide them in.



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Walter Allen

08-07-2007 16:14:33




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 Re: Clutch in reply to dwol, 08-07-2007 14:48:08  
By the way is there a way to tell what kind of clutch I have?



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Walter Allen

08-07-2007 16:05:45




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 Re: Clutch in reply to dwol, 08-07-2007 14:48:08  
In reading the instructions in the manual it says to put a thin coating of tallow on the outer surface of the liner. That mean wet or dry. The other oue I did was to put the liner in the freezer and install it frozen. But you had to be very fast and acurate, Walt Allen



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dwol

08-07-2007 16:23:12




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 Re: Clutch in reply to Walter Allen, 08-07-2007 16:05:45  
Sounds like a dry sleave. The wet ones have the cooling water in direct contact with them, the dry will have a jacket and do not have contact with the cooling water. You will not need to put anything on these sleaves except a little bit of soapy water and they will slip in at room temp. Getting them out is the tough part. They do make a puller, but I used a hammer and large punch. After banging on them, the eventually work their way out.
Regards,
Dave

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Walter Allen

08-15-2007 17:23:15




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 Sleve Replacement in Ford Dexta 1960-61 144 engine in reply to dwol, 08-07-2007 16:23:12  
I have heard that it is possible to make a tool to replace the sleves in my engine using threaded rod. Does anyone have the plans for this tool and would you mind sharing it with me. Walt



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