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super major 5000 in the shop soon ?

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maplehillfrm

04-30-2008 20:16:11




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Ok I am hoping to get the super major 5000 in teh shop soon,and see why I was having oil steaming out my radiator and the oil breather pipe,, I am hoping it is just the head gasket, I dont want to tie the shop floor up for too long, with so many changes to these tractors , is it probable if I get a gasket set I may end up with teh wrong one?? is there anything I should do in there while I ma there, besides change all the gaskets that are accesible?

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Also I am leaking quite a bit of oil out of the area where the pump shaft goes into the block area ,, I see there is a seal there,, It will require taking the pump off, will I mess up the timing on the injector pump by removing and replacing? third party image

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Bendee

05-03-2008 06:25:27




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 Re: super major 5000 in the shop soon ? in reply to maplehillfrm, 04-30-2008 20:16:11  
If you keep the coupler and the pump together the timing wont change.because it can all be removed in one if you undo that nut shown on right and remove the bolt but make sure it is put back the same way.The shaft has a recess to accomodate the bolt.When you remove the oil seal check the shaft for grooves because you may need a speede sleeve.



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tiresntracks

05-01-2008 23:58:14




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 Re: super major 5000 in the shop soon ? in reply to maplehillfrm, 04-30-2008 20:16:11  
You probably have a blown head gasket, but you could have a bad cylinder liner o-ring, or a hole in a liner. When you take the head gasket off, look to see if there is black stains on it where combustion gases have been escaping. If you don’t see those, its probably not the head gasket. If it is the gasket , you should check the liner protrusion. If the liners don’t stick up .002 to .004” above the block, they won’t seal tight against the gasket and the head. The flanges on top of the liners have two steps in them. The lower outside part sits down in the block and should protrude above the block .002 to.004”. That is the part you measure. The center part of the flange is higher, don’t measure that. Lay a straight edge across two liner flanges, and stick a feeler gauge under it close to the liner you want to measure. If its less than .002” you can make a shim to go under it, or buy one from a Case-New Holland dealer. If a liner is a little higher than .004” its still OK, but lower than .002” isn’t. You will want a composite head gasket, the stamped steel or copper ones don’t seal as well. The oil that is coming out of the breather is probably condensation, from the water that’s getting into the crankcase.

You should be able to take the pump off without changing the timing, if you mark both halves of the coupler and the pad that goes in between them, and put them back exactly the same way. Don’t loosen the two bolts on the front half of the coupler that adjust the timing. I would still check the timing after its back together, but I doubt that it will change.

Wow, that’s a long-winded post, I hope it helps some.

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maplehillfrm.

05-02-2008 07:29:35




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 Re: super major 5000 in the shop soon ? in reply to tiresntracks, 05-01-2008 23:58:14  
that helped tons, I appreciate it, I was looking at my manuals and all the talk of the orings on the liners got me jittery,, I have been all over tractors and cars, but sorry to say never did a rebuild,, I have done head gaskets and top end stuff , but never got into whole engine EVER,, I guess its time,, hopefully this is just an easy head gasket, and leave my engine rebuilding for another time, thansk for the help.pat

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cowman1

04-30-2008 20:47:43




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 If you have Re: super major 5000 in the shop soon ? in reply to maplehillfrm, 04-30-2008 20:16:11  

If you have oil out the breather you need rings too.



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