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John-Paul

04-15-2000 04:42:54




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Hi! I thought I'd start a new thread as the old one had so many replies it was getting hard to follow what was happening.

I've just been up to the tractor (on my lunch, I'm at a trade fair today, and using our computer there now) and there doesn't seem to be a number on the gearbox flange behind the starter at all. There is a casting number on the gearbox ABOVE the clutch cross shaft, however, and that is...

A7 D

I've also looked on the front of the battery box; there's nothing there apart from a plate describing cold starting procedures and the like, no serial number at all. I hope that casting number helps date the tractor. Next time I go there I shall take my tape measure with me, and take that measurement that Brian mentioned.

Many thanks

J-P

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Oscar

04-17-2000 06:31:15




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 Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to John-Paul, 04-15-2000 04:42:54  
J-P,
I agree with Brain all the way when it comes to the numers and production dates (not that that means much, as Brian is the expert, not me). Your tractor seems to have had a lively history!



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Brian

04-15-2000 06:09:36




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 Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to John-Paul, 04-15-2000 04:42:54  
John-Paul,
This makes things really interesting because the gearbox casting date was January 1960 and the fact that you have a Power Major engine number could mean that the bottom end of your tractor is indeed a very late Power Major. This could mean that the tank and steering gear/dash and bonnet come from a far older tractor.There are other casting numbers on the rear axle between the clutch pedal and the rear halfshaft some where near the brake and another on the hydraulic lift. All are like the one quoted.
regards
Brian

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John-Paul

04-16-2000 05:53:50




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 Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to Brian, 04-15-2000 06:09:36  
...The plot thickens, doesn't it?!

I have just made another trip to the tractor, and found the serial number D14 X on the lift cover casting. Couldn't find a number on the rear axle but there isn't much crawling around over an oily tractor that I can do in my best suit. I'm going to have to change and take the thing for a spin later to restore my sanity! Anyway, how does this number piece together with the rest? Engine is 150943 by the way.

Many thanks as usual,

J-P

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Brian

04-16-2000 08:59:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to John-Paul, 04-16-2000 05:53:50  
John-Paul
Seems you have a May 1959 engine coupled to a January 1960 gearbox housing with an April 1955 lift. It is possible that the gearbox housing has broken some time in the past as a fair bit of stress would be applied to the four mounting bolts for the side channels with your digger. I would suspect that your tractor started as an FMD and has had an engine fitted plus the gearbox housing during its life. You seem to have all the tank etc of an FMD to line up with the number on th lift casting. We'll see what Steven, Don and Oscar think. Then we shall pass final judgement on what you have got.}:-)
You realise we are a bit like the Norse Gods on of this site so watch out for thunderbolts. By the way. Foot throttle. Changeing gear on the move? You've not got an ERF now you know. I asked my brother about the "A" series and his comment was "The one with 10 reverse if you did not watch it"
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Brian

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Steven B

04-16-2000 19:07:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to Brian, 04-16-2000 08:59:45  
I agree with Brian 100%. Shifting gears is not an option in the E1A's. I have always changed from 5th to 6th however with no problems.

Steven B



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John-Paul

04-17-2000 02:07:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to Steven B, 04-16-2000 19:07:23  
OK, I'll remove the foot throttle then. It would have been in the way anyway once I have got the left brake fixed, and can use it.
I'm beginning to see why I wouldn't need to change gear, it pulls away ok in 6th and the engine seems very flexible. In theory it should be ok though, yes? I mean, double declutching, and rev engine to match speeds when down-shifting? This is what I used to do with the ERF 'A' series anyway. That had a David Brown gearbox with straight cut teeth and no synchromesh, presumably like tractor gearbox? I never had any problems changing gear with that, once I learnt how to do it properly of course.

Also I'm less worried about the graunching noise now, I'm starting to think it might just be a tractor noise. Anyway it's not very noticeable when flying down the road in 6th. Yeee-Harrr!!!!

Any consensus of opinion on what to call the machine yet? I must change the title of its home-page!

Cheers,

J-P

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Brian

04-17-2000 02:31:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to John-Paul , 04-17-2000 02:07:39  
John-Paul,
It will pull away in top under load with no problem. The normal way most of us shift is as Steven said 5th to 6th with a quick heave on the high/low. The gears and the drag in the box is much higher than your ERF and it is impossible to get a clean shift through the box. Also you would need three arms as some of the shifts say from 4th to 5th mean moving two levers.
Mines called Henrietta. how about Heinz ;)
Brian
(For those of you too young to remember Heinz made 57 varieties much like J-P's tractor).

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John-Paul

04-17-2000 06:51:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to Brian, 04-17-2000 02:31:28  

Ha!

You've reminded me that my Mother was told that her new bike was an ASP. She proudly told her schoolfriends (with their BSA's etc) this, later discovering that ASP meant "All Spare Parts".

I think I must have a highly valuable, unique, "Fordson ASP" from a carefully selected blend of vintages...

Are we agreed then that I "bin" the foot throttle? Was this rather optomistic peice of bent tin part of the original tractor? (I can hear you laughing and saying, "no, and neither was the engine, gearbox, ...etc, etc...").

Cheers

J-P

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Brian

04-17-2000 10:50:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gearbox casting number in reply to John-Paul, 04-17-2000 06:51:05  
John-Paul
What are we going to do when you finish this restoration? I think that I speak for all when I say I really enjoy the posts and the discussion. Like Don said a few (?) posts ago, you have a wonderfull sense of humor. We really must find you another one when you finish this one.
Are you over in England on the weekend of the 10th /11th of June? Its the 2000 Tractor Rally on the Newark Show ground.If you make it I would be delighted to meet you there and show you Henrietta and Sir William.
regards
Brian

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