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Fordson major diesel convert to negative earth

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pat

03-11-2001 05:04:58




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what things need to be considerd when converting a fordson major diesel to negative earth 1, presumably i can put an altenator from a car on instead of the generator which appears to be broken anyway, should i use one from a diesel or won`t it matter
2, will the starter motor still work properly?
3, will i need to change the ammeter?
4, where is the regulator and what do i do there?
is there anything else to do

thanks,
from Pat, England.

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DaveW

03-16-2001 14:09:49




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 Re: fordson major diesel convert to negative earth in reply to pat, 03-11-2001 05:04:58  
I did the same to my Super Dexta (Diesel) a couple of years ago. I don't know the Major specifically, but presumably it is similar?

To answer your questions directly:

1. You can use an alternator from a car, as long as it produces the same voltage as your battery (ie., 6V or 12V). I used an alternator from a Ford Fiesta, as it is fairly small and cheap from a scrap yard. Petrol/ diesel does not matter.

2. The starter motor will work correctly (the current in the field and armature windings will both reverse, giving the same direction of rotation).

3. I think at least you will need to cross the wires on the ammeter for it to read in the right direction. Note that a modern alternator is likely to produce a higher output current than the old generator, so you may need to replace the ammeter for one that can cope with the full output of the alternator (eg. Ford Fiesta alternator=55Amperes). One further thought, you may need to change the wire to the battery for a heavier guage to cope with the higher current.

4. I don't know where the regulator is on a Major. On my Dexta, I removed it, as the alternator I used has an internal regulator. The large terminal of the alternator goes to the battery positive (I put a 60Ampere fuse in this wire just in case!). The small terminal on the alternator will need a switched live connection from the battery positive (eg. through the ignition switch if you have one) via a bulb of the same voltage rating as the battery (This provides a charge/ no charge indicator).

One benefit of changing to an alternator is the greatly increased battery charge rate due to the higher output current. Plus you will still be charging when using lights, etc.

Mail me if you need an more details.

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John-Paul (Finland)

03-12-2001 00:10:23




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 Re: fordson major diesel convert to negative earth in reply to pat, 03-11-2001 05:04:58  
What makes you think the generator is broken? How have you tested it?
Remember that the generator needs feedback via the field wire before you will get any output. Connect the two wires (Dynamo and Field) together, then measure the potential between this joint and the chassis.

Hope this helps.
J-P

PS. Brian helped me a _lot_ with this stuff a year or so back. I also thought that my dynamo was broken. If you use the search function on this board, you'll find the posts.

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Bill Stevenson

03-11-2001 18:41:26




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 Re: fordson major diesel convert to negative earth in reply to pat, 03-11-2001 05:04:58  
All you must do is repolarize the regulator and swithch the battery. Years back I converted many automobiles to negative ground so people could use readily available electronic accessories. With spark ignition you must also reverse the coil to maintain proper polarity there also. If I've overlooked anything I hope someone else will jump in and add those details. Yes the starter still works fine in both polarities.

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