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FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question.

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Phill

03-20-2001 02:24:53




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I have recently purchased this machine and have found that there is NO OIL in one part of the transmission.
On the left side of the gearbox there is a large round bung with OIL HIGH LOW written on it.
I screwed it out and looked down inside only to find that it is BONE DRY. I have no idea what sort of oil to put in it (85/120 gear oil or straight run mineral oil, what grade etc.) so any help would be appreciated as I need to use this tractor.
Also, how do I check to see if there is enough hydraulic oil in it, what grade do I use if it is low, where do I put it in?

The rear axle housing oil looks a bit white so has a little water in it I think. What grade and type is it? This is the housing with the dip-stick on the left hand side just forward of the seat.

I have pics if needed for ID which I can email if required.

Thanks for any help.

Phill. Perth West Australia.

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Mark

04-01-2001 19:16:53




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 Re: FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question. in reply to Phill, 03-20-2001 02:24:53  
Phil,
I also have a '57 major. I understand milky oil is a common problem that is due condensation. If you can keep your tractor out of the rain and direct sunlight when not in use, it will help. When the tractor heats up it expells air from the breathers. When it cools, the air contracts and draws air (laden with moisture) into the transaxle and gearbox. The moisture then condenses inside and contaminates the oil. It doesn't take much water to destroy the lubricating properties of the oil, so change it at the recommended interval.
By the way check and clean the breathers too. If they are blocked air expansion will force oil out of the seals rather than air out of the breathers. That might be why you have no oil in your gearbox.
Congratulation on your purchase. I'm glad I bought mine.
Regards,
Mark.

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Phill

04-02-2001 05:38:36




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 Re: Re: FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question. in reply to Mark, 04-01-2001 19:16:53  
Thanks for the info Mark.
I have no idea where the breathers are so I will investigate next time.
Have you any idea as to wither the clutch and or brakes are dry or wet (oil) type. There apears to be no drain hole at the bottom of the clutch housing to let oil out if seals leak, so I assume it is wet clutch.
My tractor is also a F.E.L. (no bucket yet) just for your info.
Can send a pic if you are interested. I did a lot of work with it last weekend with the back-blade, and noticed that the transmission wines badly, especially in high range.

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Mark

04-03-2001 20:12:14




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 Re: Re: Re: FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question. in reply to Phill, 04-02-2001 05:38:36  
Phil,
The gearbox breather is a long headed hollow bolt installed in one of the bolt holes on top of the gearbox, underneath the fuel tank. When you remove it for cleaning, make sure the bolt hole that the breather is installed in is actually a through hole into the gearbox and not just a blind hole. When I bought mine, I found a previous owner had put the breather in the wrong hole. When the tractor warmed up, oil poured out the pulley shaft seal. I thought your tractor might have low oil for the same reason. The breather for the transaxle is in the filler cap behind the seat.
I don't know about the clutch or brakes, only that the brakes don't work as well in reverse as they do forward.
My Fordson whines as well under the same conditions. It might be bearing wear or perhaps just the type of gears in mesh. I haven't seen a detail section through the gearbox / transaxle to see if the gears are straight or helical. Straight cut gears are noisy by nature, due to the way they mesh. Helical gears are much quieter. I think cars generally have straight gears for reverse and helical for forward gears, thats why reverse gear is always noisier.
I am looking for more info on buying or perhaps making a F.E.L. for mine. Things like cylinder sizes, member sizes and connection details would be useful. I would like to see pictures if you have some.
Email me direct, if you like, to mark@ccwater.com.au
Regards,
Mark.

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Kjell

04-13-2001 14:35:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question. in reply to Mark, 04-03-2001 20:12:14  
Hello !
I am more used to a -62 model, but I am sure your clutch and brakes are dry as ..... .....
Wet brakes came much later.
you shall use engine oil sae 10-30 on the engine, gearbox and differensial.
Missing oil in the gearbox is normally in the rear, just put it back, up to the "high" level. Even if you have to do this 3-4 times a year you save a lot of work.
good luck

reg Kjell

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steve

03-22-2001 17:20:37




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 Re: FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question. in reply to Phill, 03-20-2001 02:24:53  
the hyd pump is run off the fluid in the rear axel I use hy-tran in both trans and rearend.your going to need 15 gal or so.get yourself a intertec manual.I also have a conpleat dealer parts manual that has exploed veiws of the tractor.I have a 56 major



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TMAC

03-22-2001 16:30:09




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 Re: FORDSON MAJOR DIESEL 1957 Oil Question. in reply to Phill, 03-20-2001 02:24:53  
On mine I used Ford trans-hydro fluid. It is about 80-90 weight. You use it for the transmission(left side of gear box) and for the rear end. You can find the oil in Tractor Supply, Quality Farm, or the New Holland dealer



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